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  • HKRick
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 720

    Solvent Traps

    I have had a bad reaction lately to Hoppe's Solvent lately and was wondering if anyone has actually used the Solvent Traps for their intended purpose? I also wanted to verify that it is legal to use them in the manner they are sold. I am not trying to use them for any off list activities. I wear latex gloves but my hands still swell and get red and stiff. I am not allergic to latex. I wonder is the solvent still penetrates the gloves.

    Anyway any insight into the legality of solvent traps in CA?
  • #2
    meaty-btz
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2010
    • 8980

    Originally posted by HKRick
    I have had a bad reaction lately to Hoppe's Solvent lately and was wondering if anyone has actually used the Solvent Traps for their intended purpose? I also wanted to verify that it is legal to use them in the manner they are sold. I am not trying to use them for any off list activities. I wear latex gloves but my hands still swell and get red and stiff. I am not allergic to latex. I wonder is the solvent still penetrates the gloves.

    Anyway any insight into the legality of solvent traps in CA?
    The Latex Gloves.. are they "powdered" and "made in China"?

    Just a question. I am not allergic to Latex either.. however on day I put on a pair of latex gloves with powder.. my hands began to burn and swell.. I quickly took them off and the swelling and burning continued and started to travel up my arms.. I took a mega-dose of benydrl and it just held it in check till it subsided.

    Have to be careful with gloves. If this started recently then check the gloves. The hopes is easy to test. Take a dot of it and place it on the back of the hand. If you get a reaction then you know it's the hopes, if not.. its the "with love from china".

    The solvent in Hopes 9 is Kerosene.
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    • #3
      BumBum
      Senior Member
      CGN Contributor
      • Jan 2013
      • 1607

      There isn't anything a number of household items won't do that a "solvent trap" does. In fact, I would think an oil filter, er I mean "solvent trap" would have more a propensity to get all over the place as opposed to a kitchen bowl and some newspaper. Or I would try a different solvent - there are many options out there.

      And let's not kid ourselves, collecting solvent was never the intended purpose of these devices. That's why they are no longer allowed at the Crossroads gun shows.
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      • #4
        HKRick
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 720

        I will have to check that out. They didn't seem to have that powdered feel as far as I recall. I'm pretty sure they are Chinese made. I picked them up at an auto parts store.

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        • #5
          HKRick
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 720

          Originally posted by BumBum
          There isn't anything a number of household items won't do that a "solvent trap" does. In fact, I would think an oil filter, er I mean "solvent trap" would have more a propensity to get all over the place as opposed to a kitchen bowl and some newspaper. Or I would try a different solvent - there are many options out there.

          And let's not kid ourselves, collecting solvent was never the intended purpose of these devices. That's why they are no longer allowed at the Crossroads gun shows.
          I get that. I first saw them as they are commonly being used but saw the advertised purpose as fitting my need. My hands end up pretty bad for 2-3 days. Never used to happen.

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          • #6
            sl0re10
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2013
            • 7242

            Originally posted by HKRick
            I will have to check that out. They didn't seem to have that powdered feel as far as I recall. I'm pretty sure they are Chinese made. I picked them up at an auto parts store.
            if it turns out to be glove related; they make them out of a few different things now for people who are allergic to one of them. example: the cheap blue gloves at Home depot are usually nitrile gloves.

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            • #7
              kelvin232
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 827

              Now that you posted your "solvent irritation" question, you have your intended documented history.

              Now go ahead and buy one if you think this thread is really gonna help...

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              • #8
                hermosabeach
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Feb 2009
                • 19517

                whats wrong with a 2L over the muzzle?????

                If solvent sensitive... MPro 7 or many others.....
                Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                • #9
                  hermosabeach
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 19517

                  And do you really want to remove a brake, comp, flash hider or thread protector each time you clean a firearm?
                  Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                  Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                  Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                  Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                  (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                  • #10
                    BumBum
                    Senior Member
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 1607

                    Originally posted by hermosabeach
                    And do you really want to remove a brake, comp, flash hider or thread protector each time you clean a firearm?
                    This got me thinking, too, putting a trap over the muzzle actually prevents you from cleaning the barrel properly. Like many folks, I take the patch off of the cleaning rod once it emerges from the muzzle. Otherwise, you're just dragging back the dirt you just cleaned right back down the barrel.

                    Also, a trap is no solution for non-threaded barrels. Of course, I'm especially thinking of handguns here.
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                    • #11
                      HKRick
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 720

                      Originally posted by kelvin232
                      Now that you posted your "solvent irritation" question, you have your intended documented history.

                      Now go ahead and buy one if you think this thread is really gonna help...
                      It's a legit question. I understand where you're coming from and in that situation LE would give zero fux about some Calguns allergy thread and all it's "intent"...

                      Originally posted by hermosabeach
                      whats wrong with a 2L over the muzzle?????

                      If solvent sensitive... MPro 7 or many others.....
                      I've used towels at the end of the barrel but my wife's getting tired of me tossing out towels or putting No 9 soaked towels in the laundry room.

                      I will have to check out the MPro7.

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                      • #12
                        CrazyPhuD
                        Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 458

                        Why risk it? At best it's legally questionable, at worst it's illegal to both federal and state laws. Given the climate we live in 100% of DAs in CA will attempt to charge you if they find you with one.

                        Why run the risk when you can buy a cheaper 100% legal 'solvent trap' without the drama?

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                        • #13
                          bigbearbear
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 5378

                          I use WD40 as a solvent to flush the barrel of my shotguns after a day of trap shooting, they are cheap and easily available. You might want to consider switching to it if the solvant you're using right now causes skin irritation for you.

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                          • #14
                            -hanko
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 14174

                            Originally posted by BumBum
                            This got me thinking, too, putting a trap over the muzzle actually prevents you from cleaning the barrel properly. Like many folks, I take the patch off of the cleaning rod once it emerges from the muzzle. Otherwise, you're just dragging back the dirt you just cleaned right back down the barrel.

                            Also, a trap is no solution for non-threaded barrels. Of course, I'm especially thinking of handguns here.
                            If you're using a decent cleaning tool, the patch falls from the end of the rod when you pull the rod back through the barrel. The loop thing is designed mainly to put a coating of oil in the bore before you store the weapon.

                            Duct tape holds the bottle OK, so you don't need some kind of adapter.
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                            • #15
                              VoR
                              Member
                              • May 2014
                              • 270

                              Originally posted by CrazyPhuD
                              Why risk it? At best it's legally questionable, at worst it's illegal to both federal and state laws. Given the climate we live in 100% of DAs in CA will attempt to charge you if they find you with one.

                              Why run the risk when you can buy a cheaper 100% legal 'solvent trap' without the drama?
                              I have never heard of a solvent trap, but looked it up. What is the controversy? Having a threaded barrel when the adapter is on, or is it the potential to use it as a silencer?

                              Wouldn't a silencer need a hole all the way through, so it would be clear if you were using this oil filter as a trap or a silencer?

                              Is there any case law on this where somebody has been charged? Either federally or in CA?

                              Personally, I don't seem to have an issue with solvent running through the barrel and have never considered needing anything like this, so it is easy to avoid this controversy.

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