Solvent Traps

[Tommy C]

Because simple green will not remove copper fouling that is pressure bonded to the bore. You need something a little stronger for that. Hopes #9 isn't snake oil.. it's been around a long time and is a good solvent for gun cleaning.

Yeah, I use Hoppe's #9 too. But other than #9 & CLP that's it. No frog goo, scented secret slide oil or grease or any other of that medicine show bs. Excuse the rant, but I get frustrated when a simple task becomes a project. No attempt to stir the pot- I'm just venting. Carry on.

[Flintlock Tom]

Every time I read a thread on an internet forum that talks about cleaning guns I am thoroughly amazed how some folks take something as simple as cleaning a mechanical device & turn it into a dog & pony show. Wash the damn thing with Simple Green, blow it off with compressed air, wipe the metal parts with CLP, put a couple drops of synthetic oil on the bolt or slide, & you're done. The marketing folks for gun specific chemicals have indoctrinated folks to think they have to use special products to clean & lubricate a firearm & you will ruin it if you don't. There is nothing special or voodoo about maintaining firearms or any other reason why it can't be treated as a mechanical device with relatively few moving parts.

HERETIC!

[JDay]

Latex is porous, try using nitrile gloves. There are also many non-toxic solvents that work better than Hoppes. I prefer M-pro.

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[HKRick]

Every time I read a thread on an internet forum that talks about cleaning guns I am thoroughly amazed how some folks take something as simple as cleaning a mechanical device & turn it into a dog & pony show. Wash the damn thing with Simple Green, blow it off with compressed air, wipe the metal parts with CLP, put a couple drops of synthetic oil on the bolt or slide, & you're done. The marketing folks for gun specific chemicals have indoctrinated folks to think they have to use special products to clean & lubricate a firearm & you will ruin it if you don't. There is nothing special or voodoo about maintaining firearms or any other reason why it can't be treated as a mechanical device with relatively few moving parts.

Not me, I light some candles maybe a little background music, lube the tip of the rod and slip it in slowly. If she's really dirty you may need to go at it a little rougher, you know really get in there and scrape the walls. Sometimes on real special occasions I'll even go for her gas port, gotta be careful though if you're too rough she may become temperamental.

[CSACANNONEER]

If they are screwed onto the end of your barrel they are not legal by any means, so what good is the "solvent trap" if you never attach it?

Let's clarify this. Most of these adapters are slip fit at the muzzle and threaded at the other end. A barrel can legally go into into a solvent trap or even a suppressor as long as the suppressor or tank is a stationary unit. Since most of these adapters are slip fit onto the barrel, the best thing to do is install them on your solvent tank or stationary suppressor (depending on your needs) and insert the muzzle into it without tightening the set screws. Personally, I would remove the set screws so that there is no question about it becoming part of the firearm or not.

[Tommy C]

Not me, I light some candles maybe a little background music, lube the tip of the rod and slip it in slowly. If she's really dirty you may need to go at it a little rougher, you know really get in there and scrape the walls. Sometimes on real special occasions I'll even go for her gas port, gotta be careful though if you're too rough she may become temperamental.

Hmm, I must be the problem. I have come to terms & realized that I have no real love for my guns. I'm not a collector, I don't give them names or treat them like pets, & I don't buy them treats. They get the required cleaning & maintenance necessary so they work when I need 'em, & no more than that. I believe the constant attack on the 2nd amendment & escalating prices for ammo has left me angry & jaded. I am happy for you folks here that live & breath guns & I don't want my lack of enthusiasm rain on yours.

[Gunsmith Dan]

I guess I need to clarify for those not reading what someone posts entirely (a constant issue it seems):

I stated:

If they are screwed onto the end of your barrel they are not legal by any means, so what good is the "solvent trap" if you never attach it?

I clearly stated Solvent Trap not Solvent Trap Adapter .... those are 2 entirely different things.

Solvent Traps ( pressurized oil filters ) would be illegal to screw onto the end of a barrel of any firearm in CA if you are not LEO or Military.

Solvent Trap Adapters are no different than a muzzle brake or compensator legally BUT they definitely do not trap any type of solvents or any liquid for that matter.

The exemption for attaching suppressor to stationary units has always meant for stationary guns, firearms that are not portable. A sound trap is a box designed to shoot firearms into to suppress sound and capture bullets for testing firearms, they can not be made to attach to a firearm and have to be fixed in place (bolted to floor etc.). They is NO legal way that a device can be attached to the barrel of a portable firearm that suppresses sound, regardless of whether the sound suppressing device is stationary or not, and not be classified as a sound suppressor under Federal Law.

If someone is THAT worried that certain copper removing solvents will damage their barrel finish then just get a long metal tube and thread it to screw onto the muzzle that way the solvent will not be close enough to splash onto the barrel.

[CAguy]

I say go for a solvent trap if you want. It is not illegal despite what the people who believe in mind reading government agents and x-ray vision agents who can see into your house think. Granted there have been some good points made about cheaper options (news print, bucket, cat litter ect).

Another option is to change cleaners. Ballistol works great and is non toxic and is great for everyday cleaning. Plus the more you use it the deeper it creeps and protects.

[Gunsmith Dan]

Well since it is not illegal please post your proof of such for telling someone it is not illegal and to go ahead and use them?

Here is the Federal Law for it as my proof or it being illegal:

[CAguy]

Well since it is not illegal please post your proof of such for telling someone it is not illegal and to go ahead and use them?

Here is the Federal Law for it as my proof or it being illegal:

Your proof is my proof (read it again)! If that is the case then potatoes, 2 liters, duct tape, ect are all illegal too since they can be used for unintended purposes.

It's not being used/intended for silencer purposes, therefore, it is legal. It's the same as any other item that can be illegal if you state it is for "self defense" (knife, stick, cane, hammer, golf club, tire iron, ect).

Unlike Minority Report, the pre-crimes division arm of the government dose not yet exist. Nor is extrasensory perception a recognized form of policing. Being cautious is one thing but drawing a fact from a inference/opinion still dose not make it a fact.

[Gunsmith Dan]

Funny how you "forgot" to post the law that I quoted to make your argument.

Federal law NO WHERE states that a device has to be "intended to be used as a sound suppressor" to make it a sound suppressor when attached to a firearm, and states VERY clearly:

mean any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for use in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, and any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication.

the "intended" section of the law clearly states it is referring to parts that when assembled together, not in themselves, can make a sound suppressor ........ but ANY device that actually suppresses the report of a portable firearm is a sound suppressor ( which means attached to it ).

So YES even a bottle taped to the end of a barrel that suppresses the report of the firearm would be a sound suppressor under Federal Law.

A Oil Filter attached to the end of a barrel would DEFINATELY be a sound suppressor (especially since there has been videos showing how effective it is as a sound suppressor). The whole topic has been discussing the Solvent Trap using a oil filter not soda bottles if you were keeping track of the discussion.

Again if you want to make a argument about the law then post it and show where your argument is defined in the law.

[CAguy]

Nice try, you point out the intention but totally avoid the context.

"designed or redesigned, and intended for use in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, and any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication."

^^^^This is written for a reason.

If you wanna stretch the meaning then go for it. That is NOT what the law says.

[CAguy]

Let me guess, you work at a gun shop?

If you want to spread fud then feel free. I've made my case (that it isn't specifically prohibited in and of itself and thus legal) and you've stated your stretch/broad interpretation. We'll just agree to disagree. I see this going nowhere.

[hermosabeach]

We are all tough until it comes time to find a criminal lawyer and defend oneself.



A friend's kid is in jail for B&E while on meth.

She has spent $75,000 trying to keep him from getting his current sentence.

It was his second time breaking into a home to steal to pay for meth.

This time a lady was home, he saw her and ran away...

He is in for 23 years... She spent $75,000 on lawyers working the case.

Second offense. He was on parole for a prior breaking into a home- residential burglary charge.











The reason why the law abiding don't make machine guns is that pesky 10 year federal felony.


If you are looking for a case, about 1 year ago a guy was arrested in or around Fresno with a solvent trap on a 10/22 or a mini 14.






I am sure one could search cal guns or the web for the story and then request the outcome.






Who would really buy a new $8 oil filter to catch patches???


The adapters made by the same outfit that make oil can NFA suppressor adapter, what would 12 of your coworkers think???







Back to the smell of sweets and hopes- try cleaning in a different location
Garage
Man cave
Girls night out.

Try some different solvents like mPro7 or the bore foams

The match shooters love kroil and JB bore paste
Both are low oder and work on copper fowling.

[Sputnik]