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  • #16
    rman
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 2267

    where are you located?

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    • #17
      Dano3467
      Calguns Addict
      • Mar 2013
      • 7381

      They won't be able to search data base for felony criminal ownership of weapons, (they won't have record of ownership) so what's the point.

      Oh forgot it's about the law abiding citizens, not criminals !

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      • #18
        williamcm
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2013
        • 529

        Originally posted by Mayor McRifle
        Why not? If gun owners want to protect and expand their gun rights, then at some point they're going to have to stop acting as though owning guns is somehow wrong or illegal.
        While I agree with you, and want to do everything in my power to promote responsible, sane, gun ownership; I cant afford the vandalisim or curious LEO stops that may come along with unnessesary bumper stickers. Also, I just dont like them unless it says, GET OUT OF THE PASSING LANE.

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        • #19
          Sunday
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2010
          • 5574

          Silence is golden. You don't have to discuss you second amendment rights with any one.
          Last edited by Sunday; 08-04-2014, 7:05 PM.
          California's politicians and unionized government employees are a crime gang that makes the Mexican drug cartels look like a Girl Scout Troop in comparison.

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          • #20
            Jester3
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 1132

            Ha!

            Originally posted by Dano3467
            They won't be able to search data base for felony criminal ownership of weapons, (they won't have record of ownership) so what's the point.

            Oh forgot it's about the law abiding citizens, not criminals !

            Ha, that's a good one! Your papers please, citizen.

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            • #21
              003
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2010
              • 3436

              The majority of California Police agencies have MDC’s (Mobil data computers) installed in their vehicles. Those MDC’s can query both national and state law enforcement and DOJ data bases. DMV, criminal history, wants and warrants, and the automated firearm files to name a few. It is an easy thing for an officer to enter your identifying information into the system and search whatever data base he believes appropriate.

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              • #22
                williamcm
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2013
                • 529

                So is that a willful inquery, not something that just pops up on a routine stop checkig for warrants?

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                • #23
                  003
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 3436

                  I do not know the answer to your question. It seems to me that it would all depend on how the system is configured. I suspect it is not hard to configure a single entry to query any number of different data bases.

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                  • #24
                    Sojournertruth
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 270

                    Good one for the cop....why not ask?...make sure if you do have them with you they're being properly secured and transported...a perfectly polite inquiry

                    too many Zimmermans / paranoids out there to count, too easy to get guns even when you have a screw loose or bad intentions

                    all for polite, good thorough police work anytime, keeps everyone on point and observing the rules

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                    • #25
                      GW
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • May 2004
                      • 16078

                      Originally posted by Sojournertruth
                      Good one for the cop....why not ask?...make sure if you do have them with you they're being properly secured and transported...a perfectly polite inquiry

                      too many Zimmermans / paranoids out there to count, too easy to get guns even when you have a screw loose or bad intentions

                      all for polite, good thorough police work anytime, keeps everyone on point and observing the rules
                      Horse****
                      Its an intrusion
                      As soon as my data says "No wants or warrants" the cop has no right to question me on anything beyond my traffic infraction.
                      Quit putting your butt in the air.
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                      • #26
                        Mayor McRifle
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 7686

                        Originally posted by Sojournertruth
                        Good one for the cop....why not ask?...make sure if you do have them with you they're being properly secured and transported...a perfectly polite inquiry

                        too many Zimmermans / paranoids out there to count, too easy to get guns even when you have a screw loose or bad intentions

                        all for polite, good thorough police work anytime, keeps everyone on point and observing the rules
                        I agree. To me, the cop's question was on par with asking, "Have you been drinking tonight?" Not many people (even here) would have a problem with being asked that, because deep down inside they don't view drinking as doing something wrong or illegal. I don't have a problem being asked about my guns for the same reason. And, frankly, as a responsible, nonprohibited person, it doesn't bother me in the least that an LEO might find out about them via a database. Owning guns is not a crime, and if enough people stand up and be counted, it never will be. Soap box plea to all: stop thinking and acting like you're doing something wrong. Help make gun ownership normal and socially acceptable again in all parts of this state.

                        By the way, I listened to the recording, and I thought the OP's response was completely appropriate, and the entire situation was well handled by both parties involved. Good job, dorbie!
                        Last edited by Mayor McRifle; 08-03-2014, 11:17 AM.
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                        • #27
                          NATEWA
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 5977

                          Originally posted by Sunday
                          Silence is golden
                          I agree.

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                          • #28
                            Snoopy47
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 3885

                            Originally posted by GW
                            Horse****
                            Its an intrusion
                            As soon as my data says "No wants or warrants" the cop has no right to question me on anything beyond my traffic infraction.
                            Quit putting your butt in the air.
                            Nope, a cop can ask anything they want. No intrusion. The "intrusion" could have been avoided by not making an illegal turn.

                            Now, that said, I just wouldn't answer the question. Don't be there to interfere with their job, but on the same token there's no sense in giving them blind consent so their job is easy.
                            Before there was Polymer there was Accuracy.

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                            • #29
                            • #30
                              CBruce
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 1993

                              Originally posted by Mayor McRifle
                              Why not? If gun owners want to protect and expand their gun rights, then at some point they're going to have to stop acting as though owning guns is somehow wrong or illegal.
                              I'm too worried about broken glass or key'd paint. I also don't like to advertise to the world that this house probably has firearms in it.

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