FBI done with .40?

[Eirerogue]

This pre-RFP is for testing and evaluation purposes only. They'll do significant stress tests, ballistics and 'mud' tests with these 9mm pistols. Any manufacturer can furnish test pistols that meet the initial specs. Historically, manufacturers of minor company pistols are reluctant to provide pistols as they know the tests are severe and they don't want to be known as failing to make the cut.

I'd venture that the FBI is a long way away from any changeover. Also, other federal agencies can piggy back on any new contract should they want to change.

[Gryff]

I only own one .40 caliber gun, but that is my LTC piece. Better ballistics than the 9mm, better capacity than a .45. Yes, it is snappy, but I'm not a 5-year-old child, so I can handle it.

[Mail Clerk]

I personally was never a fan of the .40 caliber as I always thought to just stay with the 45acp cartridge. Both are relativity the same size anyway.

Mail Clerk

[HAVOC5150]

Interesting, I was talking to a friend who is a range master at Vallejo PD. We were talking about guns because he now carries a Colt 1911 on duty. He told me when they were looking at switching to new firearms (they carried Sig P229) the Glock rep told the PD to stay away from the .40 (he didn't elaborate and I didn't ask) So VPD now issues G17s or G21s. Interesting how the tide is changing once again.

[Baeleron]

One advantage of 40 is that it was the first handgun ammo back on the shelves after the Newtown panic, and it's still the easiest one to find, by far.

[jdigi101]

I see it as a $$$ and diverse workforce thing coupled with JHP technology flattening the 9, 40, 45 playing field a bit.

9mm (through an FBI size Federal Ammunition contract) is cheaper than .40s&w.

9mm is by far easier to teach and shoot well for a non-gun person.

The FBI looks for brain more than brawn. Sure you have to pass PFT. But the the FBI has its share of 5'4" 135lbs new recruits that have never touched a pistol before. I have taken enough people shooting to know that a Glock 19 is easier for a first timer to shoot well than a Glock 23 is.

That being said, I'm not switching my Glock 27 out for a 26 any time soon.

[Ronin2]

One advantage of 40 is that it was the first handgun ammo back on the shelves after the Newtown panic, and it's still the easiest one to find, by far.

Yup ....the majority of .40 cal users get their ammo free from the taxpayer,..

[drifts1]

Military and law enforcement just needs to swap guns n ammo so no taxpayer money is spent.

[Sunday]

Money is never an object . The California taxpayers are dumb enough to vote to raise their own taxes to support a corrupt wasteful government

[cc56]

From what I understand the FBI did not just look at ballistic gel. They looked at dead bodies and recovered bullets. They compiled a lot of field data and then tested new bullets etc.... I believe the FBI is already ordering new glock 17's and finishing the issuing of the glock 22's. I had heard the rumors of them going to S&W M&P through an FBI friend too. When you think about it, it is better to go to the glock 17. They already have holsters for the guns and everyone is trained in the glock manual of arms. All you have to change is the caliber. When you look at how big the FBI is and other federal agencies, changing holsters alone would be expensive. Sadly the FBI only destroys guns they do not sell them as surplus, apparently it is extremely hard for even agents to buy them at retirement.

[neouser]

From what I understand the FBI did not just look at ballistic gel. They looked at dead bodies and recovered bullets. They compiled a lot of field data and then tested new bullets etc.... I believe the FBI is already ordering new glock 17's and finishing the issuing of the glock 22's. I had heard the rumors of them going to S&W M&P through an FBI friend too. When you think about it, it is better to go to the glock 17. They already have holsters for the guns and everyone is trained in the glock manual of arms. All you have to change is the caliber. When you look at how big the FBI is and other federal agencies, changing holsters alone would be expensive. Sadly the FBI only destroys guns they do not sell them as surplus, apparently it is extremely hard for even agents to buy them at retirement.

I imagine it would be even cheaper if they bought a ton of conversion barrels and mags.

[jdigi101]

Been thinking about it. It could be part of an arms treaty.

Don't all the other NATO country's government agencies carry 9mm?

It does seem like a politically correct choice.

[BigPimping]

Suddenly I urge for LEO trade in guns.