Transporting Shotgun (full time) Discrete Mount

[Mentiroso]

The Attorney General's Office states that

"SHOTGUNS AND RIFLES
Nonconcealable firearms (rifles and shotguns) are not generally covered within the provisions of California Penal Code section 25400 and therefore are not required to be transported in a locked container. However, as with any firearm, nonconcealable firearms must be unloaded while they are being transported. A rifle or shotgun that is defined as an assault weapon pursuant to Penal Code sections 30510, 30515, or 30520 must be transported in accordance with Penal Code sections 16850, 25610, and 30945, subdivision (g)."

I have a F150 extended cab, the back seats fold (60/40). What I am doing is underneath the larger seat I will be mounting a police shotgun rack that is remotely unlocked via a hidden button which activates an electric solenoid or manually unlocked with a hand cuff key. I plan on storing a NEF single shot 20 gauge. Of course I will keep it unloaded however my plan is to store some ammo on a butt-cuff ammo carrier.

On a side note the luxury of the mount beside safety and convenience is that when the seat is normally folded down it would be invisible from any angle. I know as a courtesy one could disclose they are transporting a firearm, but is there a "legal" obligation to do so?

[edgerly779]

You cannot carry a firearm around all the time. Only from place you keep it to place you shoot it and back. If you pass within 1000 feet of a school must be in locked container (GFSZ) federal law. That means even if driving by on freeway.

[billofrights]

You cannot carry a firearm around all the time. Only from place you keep it to place you shoot it and back. If you pass within 1000 feet of a school must be in locked container (GFSZ) federal law. That means even if driving by on freeway.

Not true, there is no destination requirement for carrying in one's vehicle, only on foot.

[edgerly779]

you cannot drive around with it all the time is my point. You can go show afriend, go to lgs, gunsmith, storage place , hunting, fishing, etc,

[Baeleron]

you cannot drive around with it all the time is my point. You can go show afriend, go to lgs, gunsmith, storage place , hunting, fishing, etc,

Sure you can. It's a shotgun not a RAW. I have one hidden under my back seat too, in a soft rifle container with a small padlock.

[PowMeow]

so it sounds like we are all in agreement that you cant not carry a unloaded hot weapon in the glove box truck compartment.

[edgerly779]

Good for you look up the law. Lots of posts.

[edgerly779]

Pow that was a rhetorical question I take it. That is not in this post. This is about carrying a firearm all the time in a vehicle.
kopefully Librarian will chime in he has all the answers.

[dominic]

You can keep it in your vehicle full time, the point being in a locked container (encased), there is no destination requirement as long as its not "concealable"

PC 25610, quoted above in 'concealed', is the only section that addresses in-vehicle transport of handguns, and there are no destination requirements.

16505. For purposes of Chapter 7 (commencing with Section 26400) of Division 5 of Title 4, a firearm is "encased" when that firearm is
enclosed in a case that is expressly made for the purpose of
containing a firearm and that is completely zipped, snapped, buckled,
tied, or otherwise fastened with no part of that firearm exposed.

[Baeleron]

Good for you look up the law. Lots of posts.

You, my friend, are full of fud. As the one making the claim that something is illegal, you should give us a link to the relevant law. The way it works is that things are legal unless explicitly forbidden.

[Baeleron]

On a side note the luxury of the mount beside safety and convenience is that when the seat is normally folded down it would be invisible from any angle. I know as a courtesy one could disclose they are transporting a firearm, but is there a "legal" obligation to do so?

There is no obligation to volunteer information. However if I was directly asked by a LEO, I would not lie.

[ElDub1950]

You cannot carry a firearm around all the time. Only from place you keep it to place you shoot it and back. If you pass within 1000 feet of a school must be in locked container (GFSZ) federal law. That means even if driving by on freeway.

Not true at all. From the Wiki "Federal law regarding school zones requires that long guns be in a locked container or a locking gun rack while passing through those 1000 foot zones.
Other than 'assault weapons', for vehicle transport there are no 'destination' or 'route' limits so long as it is legal to possess a firearm en route or at the destination."

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Transporting

[edgerly779]

Not fud a member just got busted for having an uncased unlocked within 1000' of school zone loss of firearms for 10 years. Look the transport laws up yourself.

[fallfornoone]

The Attorney General's Office states that

"SHOTGUNS AND RIFLES
Nonconcealable firearms (rifles and shotguns) are not generally covered within the provisions of California Penal Code section 25400 and therefore are not required to be transported in a locked container. However, as with any firearm, nonconcealable firearms must be unloaded while they are being transported. A rifle or shotgun that is defined as an assault weapon pursuant to Penal Code sections 30510, 30515, or 30520 must be transported in accordance with Penal Code sections 16850, 25610, and 30945, subdivision (g)."

I have a F150 extended cab, the back seats fold (60/40). What I am doing is underneath the larger seat I will be mounting a police shotgun rack that is remotely unlocked via a hidden button which activates an electric solenoid or manually unlocked with a hand cuff key. I plan on storing a NEF single shot 20 gauge. Of course I will keep it unloaded however my plan is to store some ammo on a butt-cuff ammo carrier.

On a side note the luxury of the mount beside safety and convenience is that when the seat is normally folded down it would be invisible from any angle. I know as a courtesy one could disclose they are transporting a firearm, but is there a "legal" obligation to do so?

At some point in time I either heard or read somewhere that ammo attached to a rifle/shotgun is not allowed. Can someone please clarify?
Thanks

[ElDub1950]

Not fud a member just got busted for having an uncased unlocked within 1000' of school zone loss of firearms for 10 years. Look the transport laws up yourself.

You made 2 statements 1 - "You cannot carry a firearm around all the time. Only from place you keep it to place you shoot it and back" - That's the FUD people are calling you on. And 2 - the requirement to have a long gun locked in a school area, that's correct.