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  • billped
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 2504

    Ammo shipment lost - update in first post

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    UPDATE - August 4, 2014

    I have my ammo and the previously unnamed vendor is Target Sports USA (http://TargetSportsUSA.com). I am unhappy with FedEx, but am very pleased with how the situation turned out and how the vendor treated me in this transaction.

    FedEx still refused to honor the insurance, but Target Sports USA agreed to reship the ammo on their own dime. I now have the ammo in my possession. For those that thought that I was foolish, fine, but I was never out any money (I had plenty of time to dispute the charge) and I wanted the transaction to go through as I originally planned. Yes, it took a few phone calls and emails, but many of you that read this make the trek to Walmart for your ammo - that costs more time and money than my few minutes of free conversation.

    So kudos to Target Sports USA for not treating me like a criminal and for going above and beyond. They lost money with me on this transaction but will benefit from my future business.

    P.S. their website doesn't have a "signature required" box to check, just enter it in the special instructions box.


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    While the story is still unfolding, I thought I would share my experience with others as it may prove useful.

    On June 17 I purchased $600 of 5.56 ammo from an online vendor and paid for shipping insurance but there was no place to request signature-required. The product was shipped promptly via FedEx and the delivery made ... at least according to their system. I had three family members home that day and a dog - nothing was delivered. All places around the house were checked, I live in an upscale neighborhood, and my front door is not viewable from the street, so it is not possible to see a package sitting there unless you walk up.

    I notified the vendor (name to be given when this is resolved) and reported the problem. They contacted FedEx who promptly called me collecting relevant information and letting me know a trace/search was started. Three days later I was called back by FedEx and they said the package could not be found and I needed to contact my vendor for reshipment.

    Vendor contacted who assured me they would honor the insurance and ship out more ammo, they just needed to "check with someone in the warehouse."

    Days later, no reply. I emailed two times with no reply. I then called back and spoke to a person who indicated that FedEx had rejected the claim and that they probably wouldn't honor the insurance, so I would be out of luck. However, they needed to again check with someone in the warehouse (owner?)

    I called back today and they said they have resubmitted the claim with FedEx, this time with some additional assistance from their local FedEx contact.

    Thus far, I have had spotty responsiveness (phone excellent, email poor) and a retracted commitment to honor the insurance. It also has been almost a month since the purchase so I called my credit card company who assured me that I had 60 days to file a claim. I could have started the process today but chose not to as I want to keep the activity at the vendor moving along - I don't want to alienate them if it is unnecessary.

    I will give this another 1-2 weeks. If by that time there is no positive action, I will dispute the claim. If I get my product, great. Either way I will update this post and name the vendor.

    It is clear that the vendor did not steal/lose/"misplace" the ammo - FedEx did. However, I hold the vendor responsible for honoring the insurance I PAID for. If FedEx won't pay them when a package is lost, then they should not be offering the insurance to their customers.
    Last edited by billped; 08-04-2014, 1:23 PM.
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    Synergy
    I need a LIFE!!
    • May 2008
    • 14303

    I would have filed a claim through my credit card and been done with the headache.
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    • #3
      billped
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 2504

      I thought about it. However, it was a good price for good ammo.
      Bill

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      • #4
        kjv146
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 898

        Unfortunate situation. Am currently in a similar one with ammo, allbeit under $100 with UPS. I requested a signature delivery. Received an email that a delivery was attempted last Thursday and Friday (both were at the same time each time). Did not come home to a notice of when they would be back to try second or third delivery. Received an email on Monday that they had delivered that day and left on my front porch Why would you leave an item unattended when someone requests a signature to be delivered. Alas, upon receiving the email that it was delivered, I get home and there's nothing on my front porch. WTF. Basically I suspect that either the driver or some other wonderful individual snatched my isht. Through UPS anything under $100 is covered, so we will see. Put a claim in with UPS. I don't have an issue with the vendor and wish to use them again. What sucks is that the ammo was crazy on sale. Pretty. Friggin. Frustrating. I empathize with you, OP.
        Last edited by kjv146; 07-15-2014, 10:53 AM.
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        • #5
          Synergy
          I need a LIFE!!
          • May 2008
          • 14303

          I would share the vendor, perhaps others have had a similar issue with them and they can share how they handled it and got it resolved.
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          • #6
            desrt2
            Member
            • Feb 2012
            • 319

            Occasionally you'll get a substitute delivery driver that sucks. I've had "2nd notices" placed on my door when there were no first notices.
            I've never had a problem with UPS but I don't trust FedEx and USPS is probably less reliable than a pizza delivery.
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            • #7
              el tardo
              Banned
              • Sep 2012
              • 1094

              this below is what to do, then place new order with same company.i do it all the time. i dont even call the company,just call your cc and its magic.
              and never use your debit card,doesnt carry same rights as a cc.
              you paid for something and its not your job to hunt it down or have to wait.

              Originally posted by Synergy
              I would have filed a claim through my credit card and been done with the headache.

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              • #8
                meaty-btz
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2010
                • 8980

                I think the best way to get ammo these days is as a UPS/FED-EX driver.. with the tens of thousands of rounds that have gone missing we could have equipped the US Army to fight a war with.

                What floored me once was that not all shipping via fed-ex and UPS goes through a UPS delivery driver. My wife got her laptop delivered by some guy in an old ford AeroStar van without any signage. I chatted with him, he was a nice guy but he told me that UPS and FED-EX farm out small or out of the way deliveries to contractors like him on an on call basis to save money. No there is no oversight for these 3rd party delivery goons. It is marked as delivered as soon as it is passed to the contractor.

                Someone some where has a mess ton of stolen ammo.
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                • #9
                  bigbearbear
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 5378

                  Did you pay with your credit card? If so, don't let them drag it so long that you can't dispute the charge via your credit card company.

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                  • #10
                    new1911
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 1729

                    invest in a camera system. it's a great layer of defense from such instances of proof and theft deterrent.

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                    • #11
                      MisplacedTexan
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 706

                      I also say dispute the charge w/ cc (especially if it's AmEx) - not your problem - it's FedEx's - let them fight w/ the cc company.

                      Yeah, no check-mark on on-line form for signature requested - but isn't that the default to avoid this situation? If you talk to Fed-Ex again ask that question - what is the default - signature or no signature - unless given permission up front, Fed-Ex should have an electronic signature of who they delivered to - and the EXACT time it was delivered.

                      Back when we used to use Fed-Ex, we had two - yes two computers stolen by their drivers (boxes said Dell on them). Work college's husband worked for fed-ex and inquired on the QT - that's how we knew - not sure if the drivers were fired or not.

                      You've done your due diligence, they ammo company isn't responding - I say mention their name since you've done more than I would have to try to resolve it. And Dispute w/ cc company now rather than later. I bet you that will get FedEx to respond a bit better.

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                      • #12
                        johnthomas
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 7001

                        Originally posted by billped
                        I thought about it. However, it was a good price for good ammo.
                        600 dollars for no ammo is not a good price to pay. You have gotten the run around. Being nice in a business deal gone wrong only prolongs the outcome. There is only one letter difference in being a champ in your situation. Take out the letter a and replace it with the letter U. Don't be a chump. Call him and let him know if your ammo is not delivered by Friday, you will have the payment cancelled by your credit card company.
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                        • #13
                          JDay
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 19393

                          Ammo shipment lost

                          If you go to fedex.com and track your package you get an option to require a signature.

                          Edit: They'll even hold it for you at a local fedex store free of charge.
                          Last edited by JDay; 07-15-2014, 12:16 PM.
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                          • #14
                            edgerly779
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 19871

                            I leave a note on my door that says ok to leave packages with a neighbor who is always there signature required. Since I have done that nothing has gone missing powder/primers/ammo/firearms parts/ marijuana, etc.

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                            • #15
                              GunNut666
                              Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 475

                              Contact your CC company. I had a similar situation and they took care of me.

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