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  • #16
    Rob454
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Feb 2006
    • 11254

    He wont be in business for long. It also doenst take a long time for word of mouth to spread
    ROb

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    • #17
      odesskiy
      Banned
      • Aug 2007
      • 3035

      Ah....my new crank call target! Maybe I should ask him if he wants to buy a shipment of full-auto AK's from my Russian connection.....

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      • #18
        LewDog
        Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 306

        Wow, that's ridiculous! I think everyone needs to start calling him and asking if he will do a PTP transfer of a Cal-legal AR-15 then everyone slap him around with the facts. I'm tempted to go in there and find out what's up his a**. If he doesn't want to be involved in the AR business that's fine! No reason to threaten people and kick them out though. Very poor people skills from the sound of it.

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        • #19
          Guntech
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 1722

          Hes a ****ing moron since he doesn't know OLL's are legal and he has nothing to worry about after it leaves his shop. He is not liable if you make an AW.
          " I think the National Rifle Association is more feared than any of those associations,"
          -Bob Schieffer, CBS News chief Washington correspondent


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          • #20
            domokun
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 3525

            Originally posted by Guntech
            Hes a ****ing moron since he doesn't know OLL's are legal and he has nothing to worry about after it leaves his shop. He is not liable if you make an AW.
            I think from their point of view, even though they know OLLs are legal but it's a significant amount of "risk" in dealing with OLLs. It's his FFL on the line and as result it's his right to not want to deal with OLLs. But the supposed lack of professionalism from the new owner is shocking.

            The most effective salesman is one that can sell an absolute overpriced piece of junk to a customer and make the customer feel like a champ for scoring the best deal in their life for that item, not have the customer regret buying it afterwards and keep them coming back for more... Now that's what I call customer service.
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            • #21
              CHS
              Moderator Emeritus
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jan 2008
              • 11338

              So, how's'about a nice little call-in campaign to annoy this guy out of business, or into selling Off-list rifles and receivers?
              Please read the Calguns Wiki
              Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
              --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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              • #22
                GammaRei
                Veteran Member
                • May 2007
                • 4956

                Originally posted by bdsmchs
                So, how's'about a nice little call-in campaign to annoy this guy out of business, or into selling Off-list rifles and receivers?
                Im down. Ill give a call in a minute.

                - G

                Edit: He just hung up on me.
                Last edited by GammaRei; 08-29-2008, 4:53 PM.
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                • #23
                  aileron
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 3272

                  Originally posted by GMONEY
                  One more thing the owner Brad said that I was probably one of those ar15.com nut jobs... I took that as a compliment!!
                  Oh that is too funny.
                  Look at the tyranny of party -- at what is called party allegiance, party loyalty -- a snare invented by designing men for selfish purposes -- and which turns voters into chattles, slaves, rabbits, and all the while their masters, and they themselves are shouting rubbish about liberty, independence, freedom of opinion, freedom of speech, honestly unconscious of the fantastic contradiction... Mark Twain

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                  • #24
                    LewDog
                    Member
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 306

                    Originally posted by GammaRei
                    Edit: He just hung up on me.
                    Haha. How much did you say to him before he hung up?

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                    • #25
                      jmlivingston
                      Moderator Emeritus
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 5095

                      Wow, that's a surprise! I just bought a P22 from Brad and he was quite nice. I even left him with a sticker of the Calguns logo. We were talking and he did say that he's not interested in anything close to AW's, I got the impression he was personally more interested in wwII-era stuff. He admitted that he didn't know the details of the OLL stuff, and wasn't interested in going there.

                      John

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                      • #26
                        Guntech
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 1722

                        IMO these guys who flat out tell you to get out of their store for asking about an "illegal weapon" are *** holes and convey a lack of professionalism and a lack of true interest in firearms and the second amendment. They just want to make a buck and dont know ****.
                        " I think the National Rifle Association is more feared than any of those associations,"
                        -Bob Schieffer, CBS News chief Washington correspondent


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                        • #27
                          gwl
                          • May 2007
                          • 1328

                          Not cool at all by the store owner.
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                          • #28
                            The SoCal Gunner
                            Veteran Member
                            • May 2006
                            • 3319

                            I'd go in just to ask about stripped receivers. Depending on how he answers I may buy something or never step foot in there again.

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                            • #29
                              HowardW56
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 5901

                              I purchased several guns there, always a fair deal and pleasant experience. Too bad the place has changed hands...
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                              • #30
                                pnkssbtz
                                Veteran Member
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 3555

                                Originally posted by jmlivingston
                                He admitted that he didn't know the details of the OLL stuff, and wasn't interested in going there.
                                Translation:

                                I am ignorant but I have an opinion that something, of which I known nothing about, is bad because it is evil, black and causes strain on my lower bowel muscles.

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