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Someone committed suicide with a gun under my name - how do I get it back?

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  • #31
    Surf & Turf
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 729

    Yeah....like really why would you want it when you already got the money.....let sleeping dogs be dude!.....

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    • #32
      titan2
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2013
      • 908

      Originally posted by Steve_In_29

      On edit: Someone can correct me if I am wrong but with a death involved I don't think the weapon will be released to anyone anyways.
      Tag.....you're wrong! The estate will get it, if they want it. I bidded on a S&W Model 28 that was up for auction from the PD that was used in a suicide. (needed a little cleaning.....if you get my drift!!! ) It went for too much, but, I'd take it in a heart beat.....it's a fine revolver!
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      • #33
        ihasacookie
        Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 356

        Originally posted by Wicked Pete
        I wouldn't want it: Bad Juju.
        Fixed for ya!

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        • #34
          dskit
          Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 393

          Why would the cops be tracing the ownership chain of a legally acquired long gun?
          To what end? The guy bought a shotgun years ago, then one day decided to see what it tasted like. So the cops think, "Well, we'll need to track down every prior owner"??? Is that how the spend resources after a suicide?
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          And so what do you count ?

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          • #35
            The Gleam
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2011
            • 11390





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            Originally posted by Librarian
            What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

            If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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            • #36
              anti
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 2098

              One detective did show me a pic on his cellphone... he zoomed in just so I could verify the gun, obviously Mossy 500's are everywhere and he knew that but it definitely matched the description of the one I sold years ago to the FFL. And he messed up while zooming in on the picture because it wasn't just a pic of the gun, it was a pic of the entire crime scene. I didn't see his entire body, but I did see the guy's leg.

              dskit - Their concern was why a shotgun under my name was in a city I have no affiliation with and why somebody shot themselves with it. Something must have gotten FUBAR'd during the transfer or something because they were easily able to track it back to me without going through anyone else for answers, AFAIK. I bet they thought I sold it illegally and possibly murdered the guy or contributed to his suicide like the other poster above said.
              Last edited by anti; 05-20-2014, 5:20 PM.
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              • #37
                JDay
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2008
                • 19393

                Originally posted by anti
                Because it's obviously under my name?

                They followed the 4473 trail back to you. The shotgun is no longer yours and you have no legal claim to it. If you attempt to get it back you will be guilty of fraud.
                Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                • #38
                  toby
                  Banned
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 10576

                  Oh my god, all this over a Mossberg? that's rightfully no longer yours.

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                  • #39
                    Mssr. Eleganté
                    Blue Blaze Irregular
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 10401

                    Do you live in the same house that your mother lives in, or the house she lived in when she bought the shotgun?
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                    "Knowledge is power... For REAL!" - Jack Austin

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                    • #40
                      anti
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 2098

                      Do you live in the same house that your mother lives in, or the house she lived in when she bought the shotgun?
                      Sorry, I was wrong about that part... I just asked my mother and she said she never bought it so I guess my grandfather did in fact buy it himself at some point. Yes, she did live with us at the time, though, I've always lived with my mother around.
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                      • #41
                        vintagearms
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 6841

                        Originally posted by toby
                        Oh my god, all this over a Mossberg? that's rightfully no longer yours.
                        Some people have no life....

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                        • #42
                          Steve_In_29
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 5682

                          Originally posted by titan2
                          Tag.....you're wrong! The estate will get it, if they want it. I bidded on a S&W Model 28 that was up for auction from the PD that was used in a suicide. (needed a little cleaning.....if you get my drift!!! ) It went for too much, but, I'd take it in a heart beat.....it's a fine revolver!
                          Thanks for the info.

                          Maybe it was a "crime" I was thinking of since my friend, who is waiting to get his recovered stolen pistol back, was told by the cops that had the BG actually managed to get off a shot with it at the arresting officers, the gun would be gone for good.

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                          • #43
                            Trriemferent
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 1252

                            When you sold it to the ffl, did they dros it to their name or do they just give you a receipt of sales. Im not sure what the process is if you sell directly to a store. Maybe thegffl never submited the paperwork therefor e the gun is still in your name.

                            And honestly I wouldnt want the gun back. It sounds like the detectives were looking to jam you up. Maybe the person that committed suicide was a prohibited person or a minor and you get in trouble for giving them access to your firearms. I would walk away from it but for sure keep all my papers.

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                            • #44
                              emtmark
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 2494

                              Originally posted by 10rdmag
                              Not sure I would want it, but interested in the end result. Good luck?

                              Me too
                              I know what this man needs.............bring me the vodka

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                              • #45
                                paolo
                                Member
                                • May 2013
                                • 210

                                I'm but I'm confused. I was told by an FFL that the DOJ does not know what type of long gun you bought. They only know you bought a rifle.

                                He said he has to keep all the DROS in his storage facility. He occasionally gets requests to pull paper copies.

                                The 4473 is a fairly recent form, no?

                                How did they trace it back to you?

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