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  • #31
    Changalang
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 945

    Originally posted by barrage
    Seems like a great round for close range sub sonic supressed shooting. In that regard, I'm actually really impressed with it so far. Beyond that, it's a waste of 30 caliber projectiles that could be loaded as .308
    this.
    just get a 308 if you want 30 cal bullets. what is it youre trying to do that a .223 projectile going 2800fps+ cant do?


    also its not more economical to reload unless casting your own bullets and cutting, reaming, annealing, fire forming, etc etc all your brass is something you dig.
    Originally posted by oldrifle
    I don't like sports much so politics fills that need for me.
    Originally posted by meaty-btz
    Knowing history sheds some very strange but amusing light on modern occurrences.
    Originally posted by VictorFranko
    Whenever a women blows into my anus, it increases my milk yield too!

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    • #32
      Changalang
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 945

      Originally posted by Jasonaspears
      Yes...the barrel and a new flash hider for the .308 round. I almost built an upper only but decided I wanted a complete rifle instead of having to switch between lowers. Get a set of Lee .300 dies for around $36 and you'll be read to go once you figure out how you want to cut your brass. I think that little harbor freight cutoff is the quickest and cleanest solution I've seen so far. I've tried a bandsaw but the cut off will be cleaner I think.
      yea and make sure your 30 dia muzzle device has std 5/8-24* threads. aac makes a few like this.

      *edited with correction, old 300blk barrels used to come with 1/2-28 muzzle threads. i guess they dont do that anymore lol
      Last edited by Changalang; 05-06-2014, 9:46 PM.
      Originally posted by oldrifle
      I don't like sports much so politics fills that need for me.
      Originally posted by meaty-btz
      Knowing history sheds some very strange but amusing light on modern occurrences.
      Originally posted by VictorFranko
      Whenever a women blows into my anus, it increases my milk yield too!

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      • #33
        Area 52
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 533

        As soon as funds allow I'm getting a AR in 300 AAC. The biggest bonus to me is almost 100% parts commonality with .223, most importantly magazines. Its also similar in ballistics to .30-.30, so it'll take medium game including two legged predators quite well. I don't understand the hate from people who think it's a novelty to use with a suppressor.

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        • #34
          Jasonaspears
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 1200

          Originally posted by Changalang
          yea and make sure your 30 dia muzzle device has std 1/2-28 threads. dont get one made for 308 barrels. aac makes a few like this.
          Why would you do this?

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          • #35
            Jasonaspears
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 1200

            Originally posted by Changalang
            this.
            just get a 308 if you want 30 cal bullets. what is it youre trying to do that a .223 projectile going 2800fps+ cant do?


            also its not more economical to reload unless casting your own bullets and cutting, reaming, annealing, fire forming, etc etc all your brass is something you dig.
            How do you figure? Bullets are around $.09, primers are $.04, and $.06 for powder. $.19 per round is pretty darn inexpensive without having to touch lead.

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            • #36
              Sky_DiveR
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 3017

              Originally posted by Jasonaspears
              Why would you do this?
              Maybe it'll be kinda cool to see a flash hider/muzzle brake flying downrange. Or perhaps to see if a 7.62mm bullet can squeeze thru a 5.56mm hole... multiple times

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              • #37
                Hot Holster
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 912

                Originally posted by Changalang
                yea and make sure your 30 dia muzzle device has std 1/2-28 threads. dont get one made for 308 barrels. aac makes a few like this.
                Um, 5/8-24 Flash Hider is needed not 1/2-28
                You may not like guns, and choose not to own one. That is your right. You might not believe in God. That is your choice. However, if someone breaks into your home, the first two things you're going to do are, 1) Call someone with a gun, 2) Pray they get there in time.

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                • #38
                  bigpaisa
                  Junior Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 86

                  Well for me I have a s&w me 15 sport. I also have a stripped lower from jd machine with the eagle globe and anchor engraved. I just wanted something different something nice.

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                  • #39
                    RookieShooter
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 1952

                    Originally posted by Hot Holster
                    Um, 5/8-24 Flash Hider is needed not 1/2-28
                    +1
                    Yup!! 5/8-24 is the correct thread.
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                    • #40
                      Changalang
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 945

                      Originally posted by Jasonaspears
                      How do you figure? Bullets are around $.09, primers are $.04, and $.06 for powder. $.19 per round is pretty darn inexpensive without having to touch lead.
                      source or links for these cheap prices?

                      and if you read my post i also made sure to state: "unless casting your own bullets and cutting, reaming, annealing, fire forming, etc etc all your brass is something you dig."

                      if youre not casting youre still fire forming (primer + powder cost) annealing (setup and torch cost) cutting (power and time) reaming (time and power) etc etc.

                      like i said if you like making all your brass and reloading every single round you fire then have at it. but dont sit there and tell the world that they can reload 300blk for $.19 cents while omitting the amount of work and money that comes with getting set up to make 300blk.


                      *also to clarify on my muzzle device post: there are some barrels out there with 1/2-28 threads in 300blk, you used to have to get a 1/2-28 muzzle device with a 30cal ID. thats why i said: "make sure your 30 dia muzzle device has std 1/2-28 threads."
                      Originally posted by oldrifle
                      I don't like sports much so politics fills that need for me.
                      Originally posted by meaty-btz
                      Knowing history sheds some very strange but amusing light on modern occurrences.
                      Originally posted by VictorFranko
                      Whenever a women blows into my anus, it increases my milk yield too!

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                      • #41
                        Jasonaspears
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 1200

                        Originally posted by Changalang
                        source or links for these cheap prices?

                        and if you read my post i also made sure to state: "unless casting your own bullets and cutting, reaming, annealing, fire forming, etc etc all your brass is something you dig."

                        if youre not casting youre still fire forming (primer + powder cost) annealing (setup and torch cost) cutting (power and time) reaming (time and power) etc etc.

                        like i said if you like making all your brass and reloading every single round you fire then have at it. but dont sit there and tell the world that they can reload 300blk for $.19 cents while omitting the amount of work and money that comes with getting set up to make 300blk.


                        *also to clarify on my muzzle device post: there are some barrels out there with 1/2-28 threads in 300blk, you used to have to get a 1/2-28 muzzle device with a 30cal ID. thats why i said: "make sure your 30 dia muzzle device has std 1/2-28 threads."

                        Here ya go...bullets are $.093 each here http://www.xtremebullets.com/308-150...50fp-b0500.htm

                        Primers in Sacramento are $34.99 all day for Winchester small rifle for 1k ($.035 each)

                        Powder per lb is roughly $27-$30 per lb. 7,000 grains of powder per lb and an average charge is 16gr+/- which leaves costs around $.06 per round.

                        As for your comment of "unless casting your own bullets and cutting, reaming, annealing, fire forming, etc etc all your brass is something you dig.", the only thing you have to do if you want to make your own cases instead of buying brass shipped for $.15 each (sized, trimmed, swaged, and demurred) you can cut the 223/5.56 brass at the neck, size the brass in your die set, and trim to length like any other reloaded round. Fast and easy. Is it for everyone? No way. If you reload, it's not much work. Hope this helps

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                        • #42
                          Changalang
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 945

                          Originally posted by Jasonaspears
                          Here ya go...bullets are $.093 each here http://www.xtremebullets.com/308-150...50fp-b0500.htm

                          Primers in Sacramento are $34.99 all day for Winchester small rifle for 1k ($.035 each)

                          Powder per lb is roughly $27-$30 per lb. 7,000 grains of powder per lb and an average charge is 16gr+/- which leaves costs around $.06 per round.

                          As for your comment of "unless casting your own bullets and cutting, reaming, annealing, fire forming, etc etc all your brass is something you dig.", the only thing you have to do if you want to make your own cases instead of buying brass shipped for $.15 each (sized, trimmed, swaged, and demurred) you can cut the 223/5.56 brass at the neck, size the brass in your die set, and trim to length like any other reloaded round. Fast and easy. Is it for everyone? No way. If you reload, it's not much work. Hope this helps
                          trimming requires a case trimmer. just cause one reloads doesnt mean one needs a case trimmer. pistol caliber brass does not need to be trimmed, even the first few loads out of plinking rifle brass do not need to be trimmed.
                          cutting requires something to cut with, and you left out annealing which can get costly depending on how you do it (tempilaq costs add up for lots of brass); that is, if you anneal, which i would do since that resized neck area on 223 brass was not annealed to begin with.

                          and even if all those costs dont matter, there is still the, "is it worth my time to do this?" factor. as i stated before, if its your thing to do that to produce your own plinking ammo, good on you.

                          good looking on those prices, too! i didnt realize so much reloading stuff got back in stock since the last i checked. grafs time.
                          Originally posted by oldrifle
                          I don't like sports much so politics fills that need for me.
                          Originally posted by meaty-btz
                          Knowing history sheds some very strange but amusing light on modern occurrences.
                          Originally posted by VictorFranko
                          Whenever a women blows into my anus, it increases my milk yield too!

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                          • #43
                            Jasonaspears
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 1200

                            Originally posted by Changalang
                            trimming requires a case trimmer. just cause one reloads doesnt mean one needs a case trimmer. pistol caliber brass does not need to be trimmed, even the first few loads out of plinking rifle brass do not need to be trimmed.
                            cutting requires something to cut with, and you left out annealing which can get costly depending on how you do it (tempilaq costs add up for lots of brass); that is, if you anneal, which i would do since that resized neck area on 223 brass was not annealed to begin with.

                            and even if all those costs dont matter, there is still the, "is it worth my time to do this?" factor. as i stated before, if its your thing to do that to produce your own plinking ammo, good on you.

                            good looking on those prices, too! i didnt realize so much reloading stuff got back in stock since the last i checked. grafs time.
                            Trimmers are cheap. If you reload, trimming is a necessity in 99.9% of the cases and being that you can get one for less than $20 or so there's no real reason not to have one. I see you'll never be convinced regardless of what I say...you'll just find issue with it.

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                            • #44
                              Changalang
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 945

                              lol you dont have to trim pistol brass. brass fired a few times through rifles (caliber depending) still fall WNL for normal loads. manual trimmers are cheap but the question arises, does one want to sit and manually trim 1k+ rounds?

                              also i didnt know you were trying to convince me of something you replied to my post remember?

                              enjoy your time on the reloading bench!
                              Originally posted by oldrifle
                              I don't like sports much so politics fills that need for me.
                              Originally posted by meaty-btz
                              Knowing history sheds some very strange but amusing light on modern occurrences.
                              Originally posted by VictorFranko
                              Whenever a women blows into my anus, it increases my milk yield too!

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                              • #45
                                kenjimatic
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 884

                                I have a 10.5 pistol in 300blk. Fun round and I do roll my own rounds(my me time in the garage is relaxing so I don't mind the extra work. IE cutting, trimming, etc). I was considering 6.5 or 6.8 but now I need new magazines(I read I can modify my current 5.56 mags too but I'm not 100% sure), new dedicated bolt and barrel, new brass and projectiles. I felt that if any of these parts fail, for any reason, I'm going to have to get new parts or just have to have spare parts to begin with. I do have a rifle chambered in 308 so I got plenty of projectiles ranging from 125gr-168gr. I am sitting on about 4k of once fired 223 brass and about 20k cci 400 primers. Knowing that I do shoot that caliber now I pick up whatever powder(1680, H110, lil'gun, etc) when I see it in stock. I do have, what I feel that is enough, powder to last me until everything is back to normal. I know there are I lot people who always bring up the "it was designed to be shooting suppressed subsonic rounds" argument but hey I like it and willing to roll my own cartridges with whatever components I have so why try to convince me otherwise.

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