What can we learn from the Bundy ranch situation?

[Neanderthal]

lets see...if you are in the business of selling beef and raising cattle.....you can gain an unfair advantage over everyone else by not paying your grazing fees?

a real revolutionary...just like a dead beat Dad on welfare

rally 'round the dead beats

[Steve1968LS2]

I learned it is ok to be 100% against the Federal Government and still ride your horse around carrying the flag of the United States of America, even though you are 100% against what that flag represents.

Maybe they think the flag doesn't represent how big, and heavy handed, the US govt has become?

I know.. it's a deep thought..

Personally I think Bundy is wrong and doesn't have the law on his side.. not that he doesn't have some good points.

What I object to is the ever escalating use of military style force for what should be simple matters.

The govt could have just put a lein on his property and handled this in a civil manner.. instead they go all Gestapo and use an insane amount of force. Add in that Harry Reid is about as corrupt as a politician can be and it makes for a situation that the citizens shouldn't have to put up with.

The govt needs a good kick in the nut sack from time to time..

[Steve1968LS2]

lets see...if you are in the business of selling beef and raising cattle.....you can gain an unfair advantage over everyone else by not paying your grazing fees?

a real revolutionary...just like a dead beat Dad on welfare

rally 'round the dead beats

Well, he tried to pay them to the state.. so lets be fair.

He stopped paying the BLM the "land management fees" because they stopped managing the land and he felt they were using his own money against him..

I think it's wrong that the Federal Govt owns 81% of Nevada.. 90% of that should be managed by the state. That said, he lost in court twice..

And if you don't think the Federal Govts ultimate plan is to herd the citizens OFF of "federal land" using all sorts of excused then you're head is buried in the sand.. The govt has been steadily overreaching and grabbing land and people are getting to the breaking point.. at least the ones that haven't become complete sheep.

[tankarian]

I learned that if you aren't frothing at the mouth with the herd, then you're a sheep. Only sheeple would disagree with the CG masses. To have your own opinion means you're a conformist and statist and a lib.

I learned that when a liberal have to decide between the plain truth spoken by a regular citizen and the transparent lies and disinformation spread by the Obama regime propaganda machine, the liberal will always choose the later.

Here is proof:

Cliven Bundy unedited speech: pro-black, pro-hispanic, pro-illegal immigrant:




Cliven Bundy's NY Times edited speech: anti-black, anti hispanic, anti-illegal immigrant:



Here is what an eye witness says it happened at the ranch:

While I was at the Bundy Ranch on the 19th, I heard that a New York Times reporter who turned out to be Adam Nagourney was in camp seeking an interview with Cliven Bundy. I sought him out and found him and his photographer at the stage area that had been used the day before down by the river for the barbeque. The regular 1:00 PM press conference was in session, and the NYT was the only "press" there, although these sessions have lately been the vehicle by which folks who come to visit get to ask questions of Mr. Bundy.
I knew instantly that Nagourney's presence meant trouble because the NYT only sends regulars like him when the Mandarin class wants to craft a narrative. I was standing to the rear of the crowd while this was going on, so I didn't hear much. After it was over I approached Nagourney about the speeches that would be given at five o'clock, including my own regarding the Jenny Award. I gave him my card. He demurred, saying that he had a deadline and wouldn't be able come to back for the Oath Keeper presentation. He did seem quite rushed. I was perplexed when the article didn't appear the next day, or the next. I should have realized that he already had his story and that the editors were merely reworking it to seek the maximum political damage that it could do to the "enemies of the people" such as Rand Paul
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Finally, the Grey Lady grunted, strained, and produced this misshapen meme-progeny: "A Defiant Rancher Savors the Audience That Rallied to His Side."
Then began the howling, and the running in all directions away from Cliven Bundy as if his hair was on fire. The corrupt Senator Palpatine immediately jumped on it with both feet: Harry Reid Issues Statement On "Hateful Racist" Cliven Bundy
More here

In the photo above: racist rancher Cliven Bundy abusing and mistreating a little brown skinned Mexican boy.

[manuelcardenas77]

Lmfao! So let me guess the stuff he said on camera was some kinda of fabrication? The guys defending him I'm willing to bet use the "N" and "WB" word like it's normal

[tankarian]

Lmfao! So let me guess the stuff he said on camera was some kinda of fabrication?

It was taken out of context. Edited, manipulated and distorted to make him look like a racist.
Larry Elder, the talk show host (who is black) read the two versions of the speech word by word yesterday on the radio. He also concluded that Cliven Bundy's words were taken out of context by clever editing and the NY Times video is a hoax and a hit piece. He also said that what Bundy said in his speech is no different from what himself, or Thomas Sowell or Bill Cosby (who are also black) are saying about the same issues.
Watch the two videos. I dare you.

[Jimi Jah]

Keep your opinions to yourself, especially if a camera is rolling.

[tankarian]

yeah sure if you don't have liberal views you better shut up otherwisethe media will distort the truththamake you a racist and a baby killer.

[Steve1968LS2]

Lmfao! So let me guess the stuff he said on camera was some kinda of fabrication? The guys defending him I'm willing to bet use the "N" and "WB" word like it's normal

Not defending what he said, or how he said it.. but did you watch the unedited video?

Might be a good idea before you go all Brady and start calling your fellow Calgunners racists.. just sayin'

[sl0re10]

sorta reminds me of the Palin cut funding for rape kits hit piece/s.

Libs have a word for it... swiftboating right?

[Doheny]

Interesting juxtaposition with a lot of similarities:

Boy boys look as if they're saying "make the bad man stop" (noticed they both have clenched fists.)

Both men hate(d) the United States government and thought they could win against it.

.

[tankarian]

Interesting juxtaposition with a lot of similarities:

Boy boys look as if they're saying "make the bad man stop" (noticed they both have clenched fists.)

Both men hate(d) the United States government and thought they could win against it.

.

Really, Doheny? This is all you have?





Those poor kids aren't looking that happy either.

As for your statement that Cliven Bundy compares with Saddam Hussein in his hate for the government, I could as easily say that your love for big government is as profound and unshakable as uncle Joe Stalin's.

[Doheny]

Stalin was your uncle?

[G-Man WC]

[tankarian]

Stalin was your uncle?

Weak.