Dime size shot at 100yds???

[Fishslayer]

Offhand with iron sights would be something...

[ja308]

Rifle mounted in a lead sled, trigger pulled with a lanyard ?
That's marksmanship !

[CSACANNONEER]

The guy has a JP. He's not an ordinary off-the-street AR owner.

I see lots of people at the range who think they can just buy an expensive rifle, the cheapest ammo they can find and magically become expert marksmen.

[toby]

The guy has a JP. He's not an ordinary off-the-street AR owner.

Only means he has a large wallet.

[Dave A]

I'm in the camp that says three shots doesn't prove much. Five is a much better measure of shooting skill, as one of the five will usually open up the group a bit. That said, a dime is fairly large and a good (not great) five shot group will measure around .180 between shot centers. This is from someone who shoots a 6mm BR in club varmint matches. Even with well developed loads, temperature, wind, barrel conditions and the shooter can make tight groups an iffy proposition from day to day.

[vintagearms]

I see lots of people at the range who think they can just buy an expensive rifle, the cheapest ammo they can find and magically become expert marksmen.

Yup, and they still can't blame themselves over not breathing properly, lack of trigger discipline or anything else.

[nikoa808]

What range?

I'm not sure. We are going to calico to shoot.

[nikoa808]

The guy has a JP. He's not an ordinary off-the-street AR owner.

That don't mean anything. I got a Noveske AR and a Remmy 700 custom and I'm nowhere near expert level.... but I'm practicing to get there someday

[Merc1138]

The guy has a JP. He's not an ordinary off-the-street AR owner.

lol, that means nothing. I've seen plenty of people with expensive rifles at the range who make their target at 100 yards look like a shotgun patterning board.

[Timberwolf]

lol, that means nothing. I've seen plenty of people with expensive rifles at the range who make their target at 100 yards look like a shotgun patterning board.

yup - or brag that they can keep 'em all in the black on a SR-1 target . . . at 50 yards

[anti]

Agreed. But if you take 1,000 people off the street at random, how many of them actually shoot 3-gun, or palma, benchrest or serious target and put that kind of time and effort into the sport?

Go on the web and 500 of them become Harry Deneen in their own minds.

I'm always just a little bit suspicious and jaded regarding internet masters.

Yeah, because I'd say the majority of them are full of it. How many people talk a bunch of crap online (we all do it to some extent, I guess) but wouldn't dare run their mouth in person? Same deal. Some people just love to overcompensate for their insecurities.