Dime size shot at 100yds???

[nikoa808]

Maybe someone could chime in on this topic... there is a guy at my work place who claims he can make a 3 shot group within a dime at 100yds no matter what wind condition without any practice shot nor using any device to dial his scope in (pretty much just set his rifle and shoot 3 shots). His caliber is 223 AR platform (I believe its JP enterprise).

I understand shooting a dime sized group is very much possible but I just want to know from the experts what you think and what his odd are. I am nowhere near expert level in shooting but I think his chances are very slim. He is willing to bet $1000 to my other co-worker that he can do it and he is very confident about it.

[Timberwolf]

Depends on how much he shoots and practices. If he knows his rifle and has experience with it, it is possible. In the days when I worked at the range on the weekends and shot every weekend I'd take the same bet with my rifle.

[Jimmybacon43]

I would invite him out shooting. If he declines he's probably full of ****

[SonofWWIIDI]

I would invite him out shooting. If he declines he's probably full of ****

^^^This.

If he really has that much confidence in his skills...

[2shotjoe]

100 yards ain't much.

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[Deimos887]

I wouldnt take that bet, Ive shot dimes (literally, taped to the target) @ at 100yrds a few times, friendly competetion ritual with my dad occasionally... with a 6x scope and handloads really not a huge feat to plug a couple holes in one, little challenging, definitely not something I'd recommend betting $1000 on, unless you know more than youve shared.

[SB1964]

A guy on rimfirecentral hit a fly that landed on his target purposely, of course it was at 50 yds. He posted a pic of it. "Within a dime" is less than 3/4" MOA. If the guy shoots all the time, maybe. Then again, he's likely just blowin smoke. Go shooting with him & find out.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

He wouldn't need a practice shot or to dial in his scope. The dime sized group could be anywhere on the paper. It wouldn't have to be in the X-ring.

[Darto]

Old carnival gallery targets show up on eBay all the time and they are lots of fun and difficult. You have to remove every bit of the dime with 3 shots. Lots of quarters wasted to get GF a Teddy Bear.

[SB1964]

DIGJAM. Damn I'm good just ask me!

[Manh3]

I would take the bet but like the post above me, I would place a dime size target on a piece of paper and make him shoot it out or shots that touch the target That way he has to be accurate and precise, it's for a thousand bucks.

[Snoopy47]

Very possible. My friend that taught me to reload is great with a rifle. He hunts, and reloads his ammo for max velocity just before the groups start to open up. His target holds need to be touching (well within a dime).

His hunting rifles are zeroed in for a COLD rifle (first shot). When you're out hunting there are no warm up shots.

A dime at 100 yards with a scoped rifle with someone that knows his ammo and rifle is really not that hard.

[ShadowX]

I wouldn't take that bet. Its definitely doable on a JP rifle. Most JP Rifles has heavy match barrels that do sub MOA all day long. My JP rifle is a lot more accurate than I am. If he hand loaded his ammo, he can definitely make the group tighter if he knows how to make accurate rounds loaded for the specific rifle.

Notice your friend said that he can shoot the dime sized GROUPS. He didn't say anything about hitting the bulls eye and the group size on first try. If he has to do both, you need to take a few practice shots or know your rifle so well that you just use a ballistics program and enter the density altitude and other information.

To make it challenging, have him do it with iron sights or do it standing. If he can, then he is good. I doubt he would take that bet.

[North Bay Guy]

If I take my time, get in a zone, control my breathing, relax, lower my heart rate, I can shoot dime size groups at 100 yards from the bench using one of my AR's with a scope. I would never expect to do that on a really windy day though. Actually I can only achieve that kind of performance when the range is dead, usually on a week day in the morning before 10 am. I don't get to have those morning week day range trips very often but when I do that's when I have the best results. That said I still wouldn't take that bet if your buddy shows up on range day, a lot of guns and shooter can pull off dime size groups at 100 yards.

When I was new to shooting AR's more then 15 years ago I couldn't shoot 3 inch groups at 100 yards. Here's some tips if you wanna learn to shoot tight groups. First off go to the range and shoot the heck out of you AR. Really get to know the trigger. The more you shoot it the smoother it gets. Find out what brand and weight ammo your gun likes. You're half way there, now you're feeling more confident.

Last pick a nice calm day and head to the range or you favorite spot. You will need a sturdy bench if your doing primitive shooting. You also need a few sandbags, some ranges have them on hand and at some ranges it's wise to bring your own rest or sandbags or what ever you wanna use. I prefer sandbags in conjunction with a solid wood block. This part is improtant, set up your rest good, if you use the wood block and sandbags method, put a bag on the block, rest your gun on the forend/handgaurds not the barrel, put a bag under the rear of the stock under the butt pad area and put a bag on the bench to rest your strong arm on, put it under your elbow. You can even put a sandbag under the grip to help stabilize better. Make sure your rest is solid, you can sit and hold without any movement.

Last focus on breathing, I just try to fully relax and breath slow. The intense relaxation part usually only happens when there's only me, the range master and maybe one or two other people. Like I said before that's when I have the best performance, precision performance if you will. By now you should know the trigger pretty well and have figured out what ammo your gun likes. I want to emphasize the part about having a good rest set up, that part is huge. Now you just have to figure out how to get in the zone, a complete relaxation of your body and mind is the best way to discribe it. Your breathing and heart rate need to be controlled. When you get there try to keep your cheek pressed against the stock in-between shots with as little movement as possible. That may take some practice but as you shoot more it will become a natural feeling. Once you can look through your sights or optic without blinking and see the round hit the target, then you are capable of shooting dime size groups at 100 yards.

It's not that much of a challenge to shoot dime size groups off a rest at 100 yards using an AR but you still mastered some of the fundamentals and it's fun. If you want those kind of skills when shooting off hand or under stress you need to get professional training and shooting very regularly.

[toby]

That is an everyday event for many shooters.