AK Build Parties

[pterrell]

If you think about it, if you have a receiver bent and welded and ready to go, you could have someone help you put the pieces together. At the point the firearm is already built.

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[ervaztec]

If you think about it, if you have a receiver bent and welded and ready to go, you could have someone help you put the pieces together. At the point the firearm is already built.

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That's what I'm talking about.

With a bent CS 80% receiver you need a dremel with a cutting tool and a $50 drill press. With a flat you need a press and a jig. That's not crazy expensive and their are Youtube tutorials.

What I need are tools and instruction on: Barrel populating, crowning, Pressing. Riveting, Head spacing, Sand Blasting and Parkerizing. None of these create a firearm because the receiver is finished.

I live in San Diego. Let's do this.

[CSACANNONEER]

It would be illegal to build a firearm in a state that you are not a resident of because, it is illegal for one to take possession of a firearm in another state without going through a FFL in their state of residence. This is Federal law.

[pterrell]

It would be illegal to build a firearm in a state that you are not a resident of because, it is illegal for one to take possession of a firearm in another state without going through a FFL in their state of residence. This is Federal law.

What I was more thinking of is a build party where everyone brings their receiver already done. Nobody else is taking possession and the "firearm" has already been built. At that point, it's legally the same as getting help putting new hand guards on. If you didn't leave it with someone, it should be permissible.

Just my interpretation though.

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[drunktank]

To answer the OP, after building my first, I'll never buy one again. All my rivets are pressed properly, sights are straight, headspace checked by me and others, custom serial numbers (or none at all). Zero malfunctions as well, etc...

If you already have your bent flat, how is it any different and building up an AR with friends, once you have the completed stripped lower?

[bigcalidave]

that party is over, the law states you must now use your own tools without help from somebody else. so you cant even barrow the tools to do it. the only option i see is for selling the tools to the next guy that wants to build one. on and on . i missed out on most of the fun.

Does it now? Please enlighten us with the law that says that. People have overreacted to the recent events and there will be some form of the build party again, just need a little clarification from ATF.

[munkeeboi]

Wouldn't a build party be legal here if the host has an 07 FFL? Then each rifle will have to be engraved the builder, town and serial number if from a flat or an 80%?

here's my understanding for an 07 - even if the FFL starts with just a 100% receiver (NDS or 80% bent and welded) and ends up with a long gun, at some point, they have to start paying Federal Exise tax/fees for every gun that is built (after 49 guns, i think). The 07 has to take responsibility on how those bare receivers became long guns.

The receivers would also have to be marked under the 07's FFL as the manufacturer and would essentially need to be DROS'd which defeats building it as your own

[9mmepiphany]

To answer the OP, after building my first, I'll never buy one again. All my rivets are pressed properly, sights are straight, headspace checked by me and others, custom serial numbers (or none at all). Zero malfunctions as well, etc...

If you already have your bent flat, how is it any different and building up an AR with friends, once you have the completed stripped lower?

If you think about it, how is it much different than building up a stripped AR lower.

...or having custom work done on an existing AK

I got a Romanian SAR before the ban. It was all that was available at the time and quality wasn't as much a consideration as was the timing of shipment from the importer. I'd like to check it for true and get eveything lined up correctly.

Granted in both of my examples, they would have already been DROSed

[CSACANNONEER]

If you think about it, how is it much different than building up a stripped AR lower.

...or having custom work done on an existing AK

I got a Romanian SAR before the ban. It was all that was available at the time and quality wasn't as much a consideration as was the timing of shipment from the importer. I'd like to check it for true and get eveything lined up correctly.

Granted in both of my examples, they would have already been DROSed

Just because a receiver is DROSed (which is a CA thing), it doesn't exempt it from anything. If someone is taking DROSed receivers and making them into firearms for transfer Federal excise tax would be come into play.

[Yuba]

If you found a Class II vendor, could you send all the parts for assembly if you had a DROSED NoDak receiver or something else you wanted to use?

[riddler408]

Built my own. And I fine tuned it at every step of the way. Something that cannot be done on a production line. Yes it cost more, but as said above there is something neat about building it yourself. From these hands. My blood and sweat!

Here are two great ebooks
vol. 1

http://www.amazon.com/Build-Your-Own-Vol-Headspacing-ebook/dp/B00FLNH3WY

vol 2

http://www.amazon.com/Build-Your-Own-AK-Vol-ebook/dp/B00J614CI0

[CSACANNONEER]

If you found a Class II vendor, could you send all the parts for assembly if you had a DROSED NoDak receiver or something else you wanted to use?

Excuse my ignorance. What's a "Class II vendor"? Are you talking about an 07FFL?

[Yuba]

Excuse my ignorance. What's a "Class II vendor"? Are you talking about an 07FFL?

Type II Manufacturer, sorry got my wording wrong (vendor to me means dealer). His site says class II but I think he means Type II. They are in Tennessee.

FYI:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Firearms_License

[CSACANNONEER]

A "Type 2" FFL is not a manufacturer. I'm thinking you meant Type 7 or 07FFL with either a Class 1 or Class 2 SOT. Even then, all one would need is a 07FFL. I don't think a SOT is required for assembling/manufacturing a title one long gun.

Who is this "He" you are talking about in TN?

[geoint]

Think Ill just enjoy my new Saiga sporter and M92 for now. In all honesty, Im still too new to AKs to even have a clue about what I would be doing. Maybe in a year or two Ill try to go to one of these parties if they ever start up again.