Another encounter with fish & game

[rugershooter]

Be as paranoid as you want to be. But, I hope you realize none of that happened here. It's just the voices in your head. Sleep well.....no one's watching.

I'm not stupid; I can read what the OP wrote. I was responding to somebody saying that we're a bunch of paranoid crybabies. I'd bet that the average Calgunner knows more about our gun laws than the average cop. If the cop thinks it's illegal he can arrest you...but the gun might be perfectly legal and he's simply ignorant of the laws.

[thenodnarb]

You need a warrant signed by a judge to go into someone's residence or business. Criminal Procedure 101.

You guys read this:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=907095

BTW the constitution says we are secure in "our persons, houses, papers and effects" from unreasonable searches. Our cars, guns, clothing, etc. are our effects. Our person, whether home or not, has the same protection as the home.

After many years of interpreting these laws, we've gotten to a point where random DUI checkpoints are the norm, "compliance" checks at the gun range are normal, a pat down is extremely common, all without probable cause. I don't think the founders would approve. Although technically anything in plain sight can be probable cause if it is in plain view and illegal. He could have walked behind the line and just observed. Obviously he stopped everyone shooting for his own safety. Even though I know it is totally within the law, it still makes me feel violated. Probably because he is there to hook up someone that didn't know better, over a victimless crime that is perfectly legal in nearly every other state.
And like someone mentioned, all this LEO attention to law abiding citizens, meanwhile in Oakland:

[SacTown]

Why would this officer need to do a "compliance check" in the first place. If he was only looking for 11+ rounders being used in conjunction with BBs or featured ARs without BBs then why couldn't he simply be a spectator and watch to see how many shots are taken from each mag and look at how the magazines are being released from each AR.

I can tell from a good distance whether or not an AR is in CA legal configuration or not based on numerous hints. Why couldn't he stand by 10-15 feet away and do his own "compliance check" without saying anything? Maybe even strike up some friendly conversation.

It doesn't take long to notice someone shooting 11+ rounds from their magazine and if they used a tool to eject the mag on said featured rifle, then you can do your cease fire and "compliance check". Until then stop stepping on our rights.

Just my take.

[Spyder]

I talking about forest land not military bases.

Why are you even here then? You're the only one in this thread that has mentioned anything about forest land.

[Mitch]

I talking about forest land not military bases.

In this thread we are talking about a state-owned preserve. Whatever it is, the state or the Federal government administers the land and makes and enforces the rules. The fiction that "we" own the land and can do whatever we want on it is exactly that - fiction, silly pablum that probably first takes root in the second grade or so when teachers witter on about how all public property belongs to the "people," just before starting another rousing sing-along of "Kumbaya."

Well, all public lands have rules and restrictions and they usually have uniformed LEOs to enforce those rules. I can't imagine why this is still surprising to people.