ATTENTION! Ares Armor threatened with jail time for sign of ar15

[Stirlee]

Ares Armor, located in National City, san diego, is being taken to court because the city does not like their sign outside on top of their place of business.

all info will be in the box under the video, please see box for Representative contact information.

check it

[youtube]RzBkcUZnm-w

Nutnfancy is free to make his vids, and everyone is free to choose or not choose to watch them, but in this case the opening slide - the Nazi eagle and swastika - is 'bad optics' and doesn't belong on Calguns.

// Librarian

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzBkcUZnm-w

edit: info

"Take down the sign or go to jail. We do not approve of guns...or you." This is the unmistakable messages sent by progressives when they take over a city and freedom pays the price. Ares Armor is a small tactical store operating one of their stores in National City, CA, a suburb of San Diego. Nevermind that CEO Dimitri and his staff at Ares Armor are in complete compliance with all laws and ordinances. That does not matter. That's because guns are at the heart of this debate. The City Council has taken offense to their presence there and is pulling out all the stops, perverting the legal system to destroy them. But Ares Armor stands unbowed and has paid $10,000 just in the appeals process to get justice. Dimitri, a combat USMC infantry vet from both Iraq and Afghanistan, stands in complete defiance of this attack on both 1st and 2nd Amendments rights. And yet he faces an uphill and expensive battle with slim odds (note the so called "appeal" process he discusses). As you will see in the video, the City has made up there mind and anything related to guns is unwelcome in this Califonia dystopia. We discuss this case study to the communist (progressive) mind and consider how hypocrisy and injustice are welcomed in dealing with both the 1st and 2nd Amendment. This event in a small corner of California is symbolic of some big issues and shows what will happen in YOUR town too. As promised, TNP rolls in hot to help out the 2nd Amendment in California.////////////////Please contact the Council people below to wake them up to their unconstitutional actions and perhaps save this American small business that serves law abiding citizens, military, and LE customers:///////////City of National City
1243 National City Boulevard
National City, CA 91950-430

City Council
Email: Council@nationalcityca.gov
Phone: 619-336-4235

Councilmember Jerry Cano
Email: jcano@nationalcityca.gov
Phone: (619)336-4234

Councilmember Mona Rios
Email: monarios@nationalcityca.gov
Phone: (619) 336-4237

Councilmember Alejandra Sotelo-Solis
Email: asotelosolis@nationalcityca.gov
Phone: (619) 336-4283

Leslie Deese-City Manager
Email: cmo@nationalcityca.gov
Phone: 619-336-4240

i am fully aware of the history that ares has here on cal guns. regardless, we need to stick up for our own. a loss for them is a loss for us in the bigger picture of our 2a rights in ca.

edit: wow mods, if you have beef with nutn just say it, and dont hide behind made up rules. So kind of you to take the video down, really helping the cause, super appreciate it.

[Javierv73]

Wow I was just about to post a link to this. That is such bs. My next purchase will definitely be with them. We must support these guys

[Sonic_mike]

Sorry bud but I don't have a hour to watch a nutnfancy video.

[The Gleam]

Aye. Interesting how some may or may not be able to dissect the importance of this issue, versus prior dealings with Ares Armor. The replies here could get interesting; I am one that could ignore prior issues, but then I was never burned by Ares. It's kind of a moral dilemma; do you come to the aid of someone that is being persecuted for something totally unjust, even though they themselves have been completely unjust to a large customer base, unreliable, and untrustworthy in the past?

And yet the aid you offer is actually aid in supporting your own rights whether you would love to see the result of bad karma, or even revenge, on Ares Armor or not?

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=738579

[penguin0123]

Read their interaction with fellow CGers before jumping on their bandwagon.

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=738579

[Stirlee]

Read their interaction with fellow CGers before jumping on their bandwagon.

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...d.php?t=738579

i am fully aware of their history. regardless, we need to stick up for our own. a loss for them is a loss for us in the bigger picture of our rights here in ca.

[neomedic]

Read their interaction with fellow CGers before jumping on their bandwagon.

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...d.php?t=738579

I understand that the company may not have handled previous 80% orders correctly. But what is going on is much bigger. I feel, regardless if you were burned or not, one should fight against people telling you what you can or can not put on your sign of business. What's to say they go after other companies that put up something they don't like??

If you think like Ares Armory, think of supporting your 1st amendment right, because that is the underlying issue here.

[Tripper]

what is USA seriously coming to, where you can advertise POT, but not anything to do with a right of bearing arms

[Jeebs]

their story is like 10 minutes long, the rest is a review on the store.

Would you kindly let us know which ten minutes to watch? Are there other news outlet links to this? Any official city docs? Any court docs?

When I see a 45 min Youtube video from a guy holding a camera on himself, I almost immediately tune out as well.

Don't taze me bro....

[Doheny]

I didn't read the OP or watch the vid, but most cities have sign ordinances. Not sure if their sign is compliant or not.

[Stirlee]

Would you kindly let us know which ten minutes to watch? Are there other news outlet links to this? Any official city docs? Any court docs?

When I see a 45 min Youtube video from a guy holding a camera on himself, I almost immediately tune out as well.

Don't taze me bro....

start at 11:07

[Tarn_Helm]

Ares Armor, located in National City, san diego, is being taken to court because the city does not like their sign outside on top of their place of business. . . . i am fully aware of the history that ares has here on cal guns. regardless, we need to stick up for our own. a loss for them is a loss for us in the bigger picture of our 2a rights in ca.

(Truncated by me.)

Holy bovine badness.

What an absurd video.

Mr. TNP needs to develop some "fancier" interviewing skills.

I could not watch more than a couple minutes of this guy's constant interruptions of his poor interviewees.

I will not weigh in on this issue officially because . . . I never got to figure out what the issues are, other than that the thugs who run National City dislike the big gun sign on top of the building in which the gun store is located.

However, I am leaning in favor of Dimitri & Co.

Anyone care to provide a very brief and bland summary of the issues that the company has had with Calguns?

Never mind the summary.

Here it is: Orders were filled slowly; customers got huffy and felt disrespected by the company's public response on Calguns--nothing to see here, move along.

Can I have my five minutes back that I wasted looking at this thread?

[pitbull30]

What I found interesting is that a off-duty cop made a comment to them that if maybe they kept a log of their customers it might put the city at ease. I don't think it's the rifle on the sign its the message below it scaring the city.

That comment can be heard around 12 min. Start it at 1130.

[Jeebs]

start at 11:07

I watched from 10:00 to 24:00 just to make sure I got the entirety of the story you were trying to get out.

First, this guy is a terrible interviewer. He interrupts at no end and then interjects with his "view" and asks if that is in line with what the interviewee is saying. This is often met with a "no."

Second, there is no backstory here. Did the store get the sign permitted? What is the city using as a basis for this request to pull down the sign? Why isn't that discussed....at all? All we know is that the city is saying the sign is illegal and this guy is fighting it. We need the 'why' before we can pass any judgment on this. And please don't say it is just because of the AR-15 depiction.... Let us know the actual reason that the city is claiming.

[thayne]

I watched from 10:00 to 24:00 just to make sure I got the entirety of the story you were trying to get out.

First, this guy is a terrible interviewer. He interrupts at no end and then interjects with his "view" and asks if that is in line with what the interviewee is saying. This is often met with a "no."

Second, there is no backstory here. Did the store get the sign permitted? What is the city using as a basis for this request to pull down the sign? Why isn't that discussed....at all? All we know is that the city is saying the sign is illegal and this guy is fighting it. We need the 'why' before we can pass any judgment on this. And please don't say it is just because of the AR-15 depiction.... Let us know the actual reason that the city is claiming.

If you would have watched all of it you would know the background....