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  • #31
    Bluesman
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 498

    Personally, I will not preform for any (persons/events) that violate my beliefs.
    But we all have our own stories.
    Let your conscience be your guide.

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    • #32
      Inkman
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2005
      • 1116

      I'm sure there are many folks here working for a company or organization that is publicly anti 2A. I certainly don't hear about them quitting their jobs in protest though.


      Al
      Various 1911s.
      Some revolvers.
      Some rifles.
      Back to owning some of those "polymer" guns.

      They see me rollin'
      They hatin'

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      • #33
        RP1911
        Calguns Addict
        • Sep 2007
        • 5197

        "....Your ethical boundaries set clear limits on what you will do when you
        are tempted or are under pressure or when you start rationalizing a
        series of marginal decisions. ..., your moral compass will kick in when you reach your limits and tell you it is time to pull back, even if the personal sacrifices may be significant. ..."
        RP1911
        -----------
        NRA Life
        CGN

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        • #34
          keenkeen
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2011
          • 6782

          Originally posted by ChaoSS
          Said the soldiers committing every genocide in human history.
          Yup...no faulty comparison there.

          Last edited by keenkeen; 02-13-2014, 7:47 AM.
          "But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little and who talk too much." -John Dryden

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          • #35
            JackRydden224
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2011
            • 7229

            OP if you can't find a good way to turn the job down then I recommend you to take it. You do not want to be out of work. You simply live to fight another day. Who knows, you might be come a big time celebrity one day allowing you to do more for 2A because you didn't burn the bridges.

            Think long term.

            EDIT: I don't know if you are single or you have a family to look after. If you have a family then you probably want to just take the job.
            Last edited by JackRydden224; 02-13-2014, 8:19 AM.

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            • #36
              stonefly-2
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 4993

              go into the belly of the beast, learn what you can, take names and do your best.
              do you remember that guy that did the psa where he was sitting on a tailgate pointing a gun towards what were portrayed as his kids?
              if he weren't truly an anti he could have enjoyed his 15 min. of fame.
              no publicity is bad publicity, come out afterwards about what you truly believe you might get an unexpected boost to your career.
              let them sue you, i'm sure you can arrange representation and underwriting ahead of time.
              you are in a position to do some damage, you know who to call right?
              What do you call the people that abandoned the agenda of John Kennedy and adopted the agenda of Lee Oswald?

              Pronouns: "Dude" and "Playa".

              https://billstclair.com/Unintended-Consequences.pdf


              I was born under a wandrin star.

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              • #37
                Ronin2
                Banned
                • Jan 2011
                • 5563

                Originally posted by JackRydden224
                Work is work. If you are in the entertainment business then you know the believes before you started. I have friends who are in the same business as you and they just treat work as work. If you are going to burn some bridges that puts you out of work that also means you will be out of the Pro-2A fight. You can't fight without money.

                You don't want to end up without a job.
                Lets hope at least SOME LEO's won't share this opinion when the order comes down to start confiscating the weapons owned by law abiding gun owners. Also, worth mentioning, an excuse heard often at Nuremburg in 1946.

                Then there is also the riskier strategy of taking the job, wearing pro gun clothing to the job, sharing a pro gun opinion ONLY IF ASKED, and the sue for discriminate when you are fired after being given the job...
                Last edited by Ronin2; 02-13-2014, 9:03 AM.

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                • #38
                  Loubot10
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 3078

                  Why is against "gun violence" being translated as anti-gun?

                  If the work isn't the latter, I don't see a conflict.
                  sigpic

                  Originally posted by Lone_Gunman
                  They want to be rulers. Well I don't effing want to be ruled, I want to be represented.

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                  • #39
                    Lone_Gunman
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 8396

                    If you can honestly respect yourself if you take the gig then do it. If not, don't. You are the only one who has to live with yourself. If you are truely betraying your heartfelt principles for money, well I can't respect that, but I don't have to live with it.

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                    • #40
                      j-shot
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 1646

                      Take the job, and their money.

                      Spend your pay on a firearm.

                      Rinse, repeat.
                      Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                      ...what we have here is a hillary panty sniffer...
                      Originally posted by Appleseed
                      A Rifleman understands that owning and mastering a rifle is part of his heritage as an American.
                      Originally posted by ProShooter
                      No man, butt rape is happening like, all of the time in prison. It's basically just one huge orgy.

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                      • #41
                        JackRydden224
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 7229

                        Originally posted by Ronin2
                        Lets hope at least SOME LEO's won't share this opinion when the order comes down to start confiscating the weapons owned by law abiding gun owners. Also, worth mentioning, an excuse heard often at Nuremburg in 1946.

                        Then there is also the riskier strategy of taking the job, wearing pro gun clothing to the job, sharing a pro gun opinion ONLY IF ASKED, and the sue for discriminate when you are fired after being given the job...
                        Great comparison. OP's gig is to confiscate guns, got it. He is sure to go out there to strip someone of their right. You are comparing apples to oranges.

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                        • #42
                          Ronin2
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 5563

                          Originally posted by j-shot
                          Take the job, and their money.

                          Spend your pay on a firearm.

                          Rinse, repeat.

                          And if you become "the face of gun control", have fun explaining yourself every time you are at the range or walk into a gun store.

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                          • #43
                            twinfin
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 1208

                            Just remember, you cannot undo your decision. You know what is at stake with the effort to get guns out of the hands of U.S. citizens. Gun control schemes only benefit violent criminals or politicians with criminal plans in mind. Don't be party to something that only seems small now, but leads to a terrible end game.

                            Always take the moral high road. Do what you know is right even if there is some personal pain involved.

                            I know what it is like to take a moral, principled stand in the work place in the face of stiff opposition. In the end, you will have a greater positive impact on people as well as keep your own self respect intact by taking a stand compared to those who just go with the flow and just "follow orders."

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                            • #44
                              wecf
                              Member
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 287

                              When they knock on you door and tell you to rat on your neighbor for a reward will you do it then also?

                              There is a word for it and that word is "traitor"

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                              • #45
                                RuskieShooter
                                Member
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 468

                                This above all - to thine own self be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man.

                                -William Shakespeare (Hamlet, Act I, Scene 3)
                                See, actors do get it...

                                -Ruskie
                                The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed - where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once.

                                -Hon. Alex Kozinski (Silvera v Lockyer, 2003)

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