lost gun pick up papers

[30Carbine]

A friend of mine bought his daughter her first gun 11 days ago. She's 18, it's in her name. She lost all of the paperwork. The store logically wont give it to her without the papers...

Now, aside from the "If she's loosing paper work in 10 days, she shouldn't own a gun" argument I feel is coming, what can they do?

[bigbully]

I don't think I've ever brought paperwork back when picking up my guns. Just showed my ID and they pull their copy to sign out the gun. Does the shop not have any record?

[30Carbine]

hmm interesting. I've always just retained the copy of the receipt or bill of sale/pick up form. you'd think they would. I wonder if he's tried that.

[Dee_Dub]

papers? what is this east Germany? I've never had to give "papers" to pick up a gun. Im thinking a Valid CDL or Gov ID would be sufficient.

[Gutz]

A friend of mine bought his daughter her first gun 11 days ago. She's 18, it's in her name. She lost all of the paperwork. The store logically wont give it to her without the papers...

Now, aside from the "If she's loosing paper work in 10 days, she shouldn't own a gun" argument I feel is coming, what can they do?

What shop? LoL, they should have a copy of ALL paperwork.

[Baboosh]

I've never picked up any gun with paperwork. As soon as I get home I file it away in my dros folder.

Name the shop.

[30Carbine]

Sportsmans warehouse.

I never thought about it. They just give you a slip of paperwork and say bring this in with you when you come in to get your gun.


makes sense though they have to have all records for certain number of days. I just never really considered it.

[shda5582]

If it's in her name, they needed some form of photo ID. They make a copy of that and file it with the paperwork. All I've ever needed (the first time) was my drivers license to match to pick up. After that, the clerks knew me by sight and never asked again.

[voiceofreason]

Just bring her ID in after the waiting period and tell them she's there to pick up her gun. Payment was likely made in something other than cash.

If the store says they don't have her paperwork, THEY ARE LYING. By law, they must have records available for ATF.

Just talk to a manager and go from there. Shouldn't need to escalate at all.

If the manager refuses to help her, stop payment on the check, call the CC company and tell them they're refusing to give her the purchase.

Then come back on CG, post the name of the shop, and I'm certain 2-5 Calgunners would be happy to go into the store with her to help hold the store accountable.

If I bought a car, there would be a paper trail. Guns, more so.

[alfred1222]

Umm they need to hold that paperwork for something like 5 years IIRC. So they better have a copy on record somewhere. All she needs is her ID to go pick up the gun. If they refuse to release it after being presented with a valid ID, call the DOJ

[socalnonsage]

This happens with the larger big box chains (Big5 and Turners have both required the sales receipt upon pickup).

It seems to be a store policy, not a federal or state regulation.

If she has state issued ID, I'd ask for a manager to release the firearm.

[30Carbine]

got it. I was just talking to him. He's more pissed that she shucked her responsibility on the subject. kind that, "if you can't handle the paperwork for 10 days maybe you shouldn't have a gun at all", concept.

[FreshPrinceofRP]

He's just an *******. He probably thought that guy deserved to be murdered for texting too.

[Marquand]

Provided the purchaser followed all state and local rules at the time of purchase (i.e. showing proof of residency for a handgun) and the purchaser can prove their identity with a valid ID at pickup, there is no reason I can think of why the purchaser should be denied delivery for not having their receipt. The selling FFL clearly has DROS, 4473, and sales paperwork on file. Sounds like the vendor is just being a bit anal retentive. I worked at a gun store for years and folks not having their paperwork with them was a pretty common occurrence. We would have lost a lot of customers denying delivery for that. Sure, it was a hassle having to go make copies of everything but that's part of maintaining good service to your customer base.

I'd suggest the purchaser contact the store manager and explain the situation. If the store's policy is to deny delivery for not having a receipt and is unwilling to make copies for her, I'd move up the ladder until I spoke with the business owner.

Then I'd make damn sure I never shopped there again and told others about my experience.

[Jeepergeo]

It's a merchant issue. They should only need to match up her ID to their paperwork. If they jack her around too much, take itbupbwith the credit card company.