Why the 22lr shortage ?

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Steve Hornady Explains the Ammunition Shortage

[Custom ii]

I saw a box of 550 22lr at the Reno gun show for $67. That guy can pound sand for that much.

My son just picked up a few boxes of 550 22lr in Texas for $22 each.

[Dano3467]

Had a standing back order for months w/midway, just no quick enough 3.4 seconds is to long to waite. need auto fill HA HA...

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Had a standing back order for months w/midway, just no quick enough 3.4 seconds is to long to waite. need auto fill HA HA...

What?

[Bt Doctur]

I also have a backorder at Midway, Jan, May, June for .22`s
It because of these people ,most likely the middle men
5600 bucket $565.00
300 $480.00
2500 $404.00 119 bidders so far
500 .22mag $299.00
5600 bucket $651.00
2500 CCI $258.00

[compulsivegunbuyer]

Herd mentality more than anything, and the flippers are just making it worse, although I suspect their getting the screws turned on them by the hoarders. I bought 2 cases of Winchester 555 a couple months before the **** hit the fan. I think it came out to 15 or 16 something a box shipped. I have not shot any because the relacement cost is too high. Just like Hornandy said in the above video, the hoarders and flippers cause eveyone to buy whatever they can get their hands on when they see it, because they just don't see it for sale anymore. I still don't understand the 22 thing, not my go to caliber in an emergency, that's for sure. In the last panic I bought a ****load of ammo, and have only used a fraction of it to date. I'm not participating in this stupidity again.

[Merc1138]

Herd mentality more than anything, and the flippers are just making it worse, although I suspect their getting the screws turned on them by the hoarders. I bought 2 cases of Winchester 555 a couple months before the **** hit the fan. I think it came out to 15 or 16 something a box shipped. I have not shot any because the relacement cost is too high. Just like Hornandy said in the above video, the hoarders and flippers cause eveyone to buy whatever they can get their hands on when they see it, because they just don't see it for sale anymore. I still don't understand the 22 thing, not my go to caliber in an emergency, that's for sure. In the last panic I bought a ****load of ammo, and have only used a fraction of it to date. I'm not participating in this stupidity again.

The flippers only exist because of the buyers willing to pay their prices. As soon as the buyers stop paying $80 for a bulk pack of .22lr, the flippers will stop selling it for $80, then eventually quit buying it up at the store because they aren't making any money re-selling it.

As far as why .22lr is so hard to find?

Cheap(usually)
Easy to store and transport in bulk(you can have 10k rounds of .22lr sitting on a small shelf not taking up much space. Can't say the same for 10k rounds of .308).
Not reloadable(Well, I know there are some dies out there, but I don't think there's a way to re-use the brass at all).

So after all of the 5.56, .308, 7.62x39, 9mm, .45, etc. disappeared from store shelves, people just bought up all of the .22lr. Besides, it's not like ammo just "goes bad" in a short period of time. 5,000 rounds of .22lr would only last you 5 years, if you only shot 1000 rounds a year. There are people who shoot 500+ rounds in a single trip to the range. It's not as if having thousands of rounds of .22lr on hand is some massive arsenal(even though the media would flip out if they knew what people actually kept in their personal inventory), so there's no reason not to buy tons of .22lr. People just need to stop paying the stupid prices.

[Timbob55]

horders

[compulsivegunbuyer]

The flippers only exist because of the buyers willing to pay their prices. As soon as the buyers stop paying $80 for a bulk pack of .22lr, the flippers will stop selling it for $80, then eventually quit buying it up at the store because they aren't making any money re-selling it.

As far as why .22lr is so hard to find?

Cheap(usually)
Easy to store and transport in bulk(you can have 10k rounds of .22lr sitting on a small shelf not taking up much space. Can't say the same for 10k rounds of .308).
Not reloadable(Well, I know there are some dies out there, but I don't think there's a way to re-use the brass at all).

So after all of the 5.56, .308, 7.62x39, 9mm, .45, etc. disappeared from store shelves, people just bought up all of the .22lr. Besides, it's not like ammo just "goes bad" in a short period of time. 5,000 rounds of .22lr would only last you 5 years, if you only shot 1000 rounds a year. There are people who shoot 500+ rounds in a single trip to the range. It's not as if having thousands of rounds of .22lr on hand is some massive arsenal(even though the media would flip out if they knew what people actually kept in their personal inventory), so there's no reason not to buy tons of .22lr. People just need to stop paying the stupid prices.

I will take 10,000 rounds of 308 over 10,000 of 22 any day.

[warbunker]

Well It is actually pretty simple. There are a bunch of people out there that have more money then brains. They will pay $65+ dollars for 500 round of 22lr when it used to cost $20. And people with no life and buy and sell ammo for a living now go out and buy every drop of 22 they can find so they can resell it to the brain dead person with more money then brains who will pay the ridiculous mark up because there is no 22 on the shelf due to this vicious circle. How to solve the problem, well if you have a brain dead friend or you suffer from brain damage, Stop the madness! If you stop buying the crap from these people it will in fact appear on the shelf again. Don't believe me, look at all the ammo there is at walmart and other vendors as well as gun store locations now.

[Merc1138]

I will take 10,000 rounds of 308 over 10,000 of 22 any day.

Not sure what that's supposed to be a response to. I wasn't offering 10,000 rounds of .308.

[ChrisC]

sorry for dupe. I am sure this has been talked about.


We heard about the shortage of ammo in CA.

But last week, went to Vegas , and in loose Vegas, they were out of 22lr ammo.


What is going on ?

Because the government is buying it all up.

[Souper]

Is 17hmr also out of stock everywhere?

[harmoniums]

Does Ireland have a comparable number of shooters to the US when you compare say... number of shooters per 100,000 people?

Is .22lr normally cheap in Ireland compared to most centerfire like it is in the US?

Was it the cheaper Eley Sport, or the more expensive Eley Match or Tenex that you can still find in stock fairly easily in the US?

Was it a normal amount on shelves compared to before the panic buying started in the US?

There could be any number of reasons why .22lr happened to be available.

1/ not so high density, 1 in 16 people own a firearm, most are 22s or 12 gauge, the only easily licence-able pistol is 22 cal.

2/yes, just a bit more expensive than here, maybe 10-15%

3/ a good mix of plinking and match aguila (sic?) and eley was available

4/ normal amount, the gunshop owner I talked to said there had been no rush or issues with availability for him.

I'd say the big difference is your gun licences also says how much ammo you can have (usually 500-1000 rounds, more for competitive shooters), most folks do actually stick to it, so there is no hoarding

[offrdmania]

There have been a lot more .22lr gun designs unloaded on the market in recent years so more people are buying .22lr now. Even 5 years ago you were very limited on firearms that shot .22lr.