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  • #16
    JDay
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2008
    • 19393

    Galco says not to carry a cocked 1911 in their shoulder holsters. But i think that's just to cover themselves incase some idiot shoots themselves while drawing.

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    • #17
      Gem1950
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 2876

      The 1911 has four safety features - Half cock, thumb safety, grip safety and the one between your ears!
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      • #18
        russ69
        Calguns Addict
        • Nov 2009
        • 9348

        There is some risk. I have had the safety slip off when in a cheap holster. You also have to take the gun off of safety to unload it and you also have to have it cocked when you reload it to go back to condition one.
        If you are going to carry daily, a bucket of sand for a safe aiming spot while loading makes some sense, just in case.
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        • #19
          jben
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Oct 2008
          • 1993

          There is a slight hazard if you carry it with one in the chamber and the hammer down...but then it wouldn't be "cocked and locked"...

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          • #20
            jonzer77
            • Jul 2010
            • 8525

            Originally posted by jessegpresley
            Actually if you drop a Series 70 1911 muzzle first from a few feet it can very easily discharge.
            Saying that it can very easily discharge is false, but it is possible.
            Originally posted by barrage
            That's because Excelsior threads are like toilet bowls. They're made for crapping in and occasionally pissing on the side of.

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            • #21
              tbc
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2011
              • 5955

              Interesting video clip Jesse. Thanks for sharing.

              IMO,
              gun + dumbass = dangerous.


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              • #22
                jonzer77
                • Jul 2010
                • 8525

                Originally posted by jessegpresley
                You're taking my words out of context. I said "if you drop a Series 70 1911 muzzle first from a few feet it can very easily discharge." Which is the conclusion from the testers in the video.

                This is why Colt and Kimber came up with the Schwartz safety and the Series 80 guns.
                I didn't take anything out of context since I simply repeated what you said. It is possible for a series 70 1911 to discharge but I wouldn't say it can easily happen which is what you are saying.
                Originally posted by barrage
                That's because Excelsior threads are like toilet bowls. They're made for crapping in and occasionally pissing on the side of.

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                • #23
                  Deadon
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 9975

                  Carried one for two years now without a problem.
                  Lions not sheep.

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                  • #24
                    Dannicus
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 2577

                    Originally posted by jessegpresley
                    Again you don't seem to understand the difference between the two. I am saying when certain parameters are met, the gun is easy to discharge. I am not just saying in general the guns are easy to discharge.
                    There are alot of normally highly unlikely things that can be made to happen easily "when certain parameters are met".

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                    • #25
                      Xanatos
                      Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 363

                      Originally posted by jessegpresley
                      Could you tell me how I'm wrong?

                      Enough inertia can be obtained by dropping a Series 70 1911 with a steel firing pin and weakened firing pin spring to compress the spring enough to strike the primer.


                      "I was amazed at how easily a Series 70 1911 could be drop fired"



                      http://drakesgunworks.com/Drop_Testing.html
                      Congrats! You proved an out of spec gun is unsafe. Would you also like to prove that a gun with a malfunctioning trigger is unsafe?
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                      • #26
                        jonzer77
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 8525

                        Originally posted by jessegpresley
                        Actually if you drop a Series 70 1911 muzzle first from a few feet it can very easily discharge.
                        Originally posted by jessegpresley
                        Again you don't seem to understand the difference between the two. I am saying when certain parameters are met, the gun is easy to discharge. I am not just saying in general the guns are easy to discharge.
                        I completely understand what you are saying but from your initial post, you simply said if you drop a series 70 muzzle first that it can very easily discharge which is false. You then went on to clarify it by mentioning that is it met a few parameters then it is easily possible. That is entirely different than your blanket statement that a series 70 when dropped muzzle first can easily discharge. If you are going to make comments like that, you should include the parameters to begin with instead of just saying a series 70 will easily fire when it lands on the muzzle.
                        Originally posted by barrage
                        That's because Excelsior threads are like toilet bowls. They're made for crapping in and occasionally pissing on the side of.

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                        • #27
                          Dannicus
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 2577

                          Originally posted by russ69
                          There is some risk. I have had the safety slip off when in a cheap holster. You also have to take the gun off of safety to unload it and you also have to have it cocked when you reload it to go back to condition one.
                          If you are going to carry daily, a bucket of sand for a safe aiming spot while loading makes some sense, just in case.
                          Or, you could just keep your finger off the trigger. Buckets of sand are for the same boneheads who get bored and lose parts of their M9 over the course of a 6 hour watch.

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                          • #28
                            SoldierLife7
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                            CGN Contributor
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 2420

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                            • #29
                              Eldraque
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 1984

                              Wow, he said " some guys who have worked security" and you all go on a bashing spree of all security guards. Damn calguns.


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                              • #30
                                ifilef
                                Banned
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 5665

                                I don't even know what happened in that video, and the Comments below it seem to contradict what I saw/heard. Video made no sense to me at all.

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