Angeles range reloading store problem

[sl0re10]

Just FYI, you can use Rem 6.5s in place of small pistol primers. Just start at the minimum and work your way up, looking for pressure signs (like you should with any load, but especially for this).

I did the same thing you did when I first started reloading. I was planning on loading .223, ordered 2,000 6.5s on the internet, got them home and saw the warning on the box. DOH! They sat on my bench for a couple years until someone mentioned using them as SPPs. I ended up loading them in a batch of 9mm, every one went bang with no issues at all.

Thanks. There are some pistol guys at work.

[russ69]

...At basspro the guy checked the reloading book before telling me a powder was ok for 223. Would be nice if the people at the 'reloading store' made sure they were right first also...

Sorry but it's your job to make sure you buy the right loading components. Take your loading book with you next time.

Just FYI, you can use Rem 6.5s in place of small pistol primers...

Excellent idea, especially in a gun with a good striker/hammer hit.

[sl0re10]

Sorry but it's your job to make sure you buy the right loading components. Take your loading book with you next time.


Excellent idea, especially in a gun with a good striker/hammer hit.

Sorry but no; a business is responsible for the advice they give their customers. At least as in so far as making good on sales they screwed up by being wrong... but really; they're liable also if someone gets hurt...

I did my end by double checking before using. They need to do theirs and not give out wrong info. Personal responsibility applies to them, their actions, and their words also. When in doubt "I don't know" is a better answer than winging it.

[russ69]

Sorry but no; a business is responsible for the advice they give their customers...

They are your loads, your gun, and your face that is next to the receiver. You got screwed, that's not right, I agree, but a little more information would have helped you to avoid mistakes. Having some guy in a gun shop sell you something unsuitable is not an uncommon thing, especially in reloading supplies. Take your book with you next time as a reference.

[Cypriss32]

Ive been to this shop before. Might I ask if you dealt with the man with a pony tail? If so that explains A LOT.

[Beetle Bailey]

Sorry but no; a business is responsible for the advice they give their customers. At least as in so far as making good on sales they screwed up by being wrong... but really; they're liable also if someone gets hurt...

I did my end by double checking before using. They need to do theirs and not give out wrong info. Personal responsibility applies to them, their actions, and their words also. When in doubt "I don't know" is a better answer than winging it.

You are right in that they should not be giving you wrong information. However, consider it a lesson for the future: never rely on the salesman to know what you need. Your handloads are your responsibility and you will need to know what goes into them. Happy shooting

[sl0re10]

Ive been to this shop before. Might I ask if you dealt with the man with a pony tail? If so that explains A LOT.

No match.

[sl0re10]

You are right in that they should not be giving you wrong information. However, consider it a lesson for the future: never rely on the salesman to know what you need. Your handloads are your responsibility and you will need to know what goes into them. Happy shooting

Yes; I agree. I'll always check first now.

Plus I found a pretty low pressure load that might fly with them (using components I have on hand). 42,200 psi within the recommended load window.

[thegiff]

I bought a Dillon powder die from them a while back, never knew there was a standard and a magnum (and of course was sold what he had in stock which was a magnum). Not being powder or primers I was able to get credit on something else. Sucks...

Now I keep a list of items I can buy, for Dillon by PN, and a list of powder, primers, etc and quantities desired. My bro started doing the same, especially because components lately are so hard to come by that you pretty much just can't walk in anywhere and get the same thing for the same load recipe twice in the same year anymore.

[bruce381]

No to be an *** BUT reloading is a serious hobby and only you are rssponsible for your saftey you should NOT rely on the the guy at the store.

LOOK it up in manual or powder, bullet mfg website as you know, there are too many bullets, powder, case, rifle etc varibles to expect the gun shop guy to know anything.

Also nobody takes back powder., primers or ammo talk about liablity if someone tampers with the item. I have bought stuff at auto stores and the "new" items sometime are installed and then returned something I do not want also.

Anyway thats the way it is know what you want if not like others said sell them or like me buy a rifle to use them.

[khw9mm]

It would be wise for you to learn as much as you can about reloading before you start....

cranking out rounds...

Read a reloading manual. And once you're done, re-read it again until you know exactly what you're doing.

You took a good first step with the class but keep at it and continue to learn.

[khw9mm]

Ive been to this shop before. Might I ask if you dealt with the man with a pony tail? If so that explains A LOT.

He's long gone as far as I know.

[sl0re10]

No to be an *** BUT reloading is a serious hobby and only you are rssponsible for your saftey you should NOT rely on the the guy at the store.

LOOK it up in manual or powder, bullet mfg website as you know, there are too many bullets, powder, case, rifle etc varibles to expect the gun shop guy to know anything.

Also nobody takes back powder., primers or ammo talk about liablity if someone tampers with the item. I have bought stuff at auto stores and the "new" items sometime are installed and then returned something I do not want also.

Anyway thats the way it is know what you want if not like others said sell them or like me buy a rifle to use them.

Ok. So I see the responsibilities on my end.

What are there on their end in your opinion?

[sl0re10]

It would be wise for you to learn as much as you can about reloading before you start....



Read a reloading manual. And once you're done, re-read it again until you know exactly what you're doing.

You took a good first step with the class but keep at it and continue to learn.

I'm doing it. I'm using the manual (or on line data from the powder maker) for everything and just doing low end. They were very clear on the need in the class to use load data... and that pressure could be higher in your actual rifle than the test one in the book. If anyone blows up their rifle after that class it isn't the teacher's fault IMO. Thanks though; good advice.

I also don't trust my powder measure at all and weigh each round on a scale pre and post powder load... and I borrowed two other scales to make sure mine was working properly.

That said; I'm still able to make them pretty quickly.

[kayaker55]

He's long gone as far as I know.

He's over at Oak Tree now.