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  • #61
    Cypriss32
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2004
    • 5963

    Originally posted by bako88fan
    First off, not butt hurt. I'm not some pansy who can't handle some criticism. You addressed none of my points but simply whined that what I proposed to do was immoral. You're right, morality doesn't exist at the macro level in capitalism. And supply and demand dictates morality isn't a concern at ANY level.

    The entire point of this thread was to examine the beliefs and behaviors of those that rail on about their freedom, the 2A, socialism taking over their rights. Then in the other breath, complain that there are those who look to make a profit for themselves instead of charging a "fair" price. Maybe my example was too convoluted. Whatever.

    As for my business, I brought another perspective to the discussion. You want to avoid my business? Easy. As long as you're not in the Central Valley, we won't cross paths.
    What business is it. I would like to stay FAR away from you.
    "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one."
    -- Thomas Paine


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    • #62
      Cypriss32
      Calguns Addict
      • Jul 2004
      • 5963

      Originally posted by bako88fan
      First off, not butt hurt. I'm not some pansy who can't handle some criticism. You addressed none of my points but simply whined that what I proposed to do was immoral. You're right, morality doesn't exist at the macro level in capitalism. And supply and demand dictates morality isn't a concern at ANY level.
      This is just plan foolish. You are wrong in every way.
      "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one."
      -- Thomas Paine


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      • #63
        Fishslayer
        In Memoriam
        • Jan 2010
        • 13035

        Originally posted by bako88fan
        Actually, I'm not looking for anyone else to say it's ok to overcharge. I'm actually more interested in the climate of our culture. So I guess I'm trolling. I see guys in OT and in the marketplace thread crap for gouging, then I see others saying "don't like the price, don't buy it" and "Capitalism... 'Merica!"
        "Capitalism! 'Murka!" Yup. "Legal" is one thing. "Right" & "Ethical" are another.

        Dunno about the climate of our culture but the deal outlined in the OP makes me think I would not want to do business with that person. But that's just me. Now... $700 with full disclosure would = "Right" AND "Ethical." Some people want it "right here, right meow!" and have the $$$ for it. More money than time.

        Anybody is perfectly welcome to offer their cheapazz bulk .22 for $75/brick on the marketplace but I'm dam sure gonna try to find some way to have some fun at their expense!
        "He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog.
        You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart.
        You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion."


        Originally Posted by JackRydden224
        I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.
        Originally posted by redcliff
        A Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.

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        • #64
          U5512
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 509

          OP, you're ripping your neighbor off and it's NOT ethical dude. Do the right thing and sell it to him for exactly the same price you paid, and you will feel good about it and to avoid unnecessary hard feelings from him in the future if he finds out what the RIA is selling for. Finally, it is always good to have a neighbor that is into the shooting hobby and supports 2A.

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          • #65
            toby
            Banned
            • Jan 2010
            • 10576

            Douche just for thinking the way you are.
            Last edited by toby; 10-13-2013, 1:15 PM.

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            • #66
              zhyla
              Banned
              • Aug 2009
              • 2017

              OP is confused about what capitalism is. It's not charging 30% over the market price just because someone is out of the loop and trusting you.

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              • #67
                SWalt
                Calguns Addict
                • Jan 2012
                • 8686

                Huge difference between selling something to a friend, family or acquaintance and capitalism/business. Your exercise is faulty.
                ^^^The above is just an opinion.

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                • #68
                  Cypriss32
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 5963

                  Originally posted by zhyla
                  OP is confused about what capitalism is. It's not charging 30% over the market price just because someone is out of the loop and trusting you.
                  Thats called taking advantage of someone. Not ethical. BUT if the OP really had ethics, he wouldnt ask that. I really want to know your business so I dont EVER go there!
                  "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one."
                  -- Thomas Paine


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                  • #69
                    ptusa
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 860

                    Originally posted by bako88fan

                    I'm amazed, no shocked, F that, OUTRAGED Flummoxed? Perplexed? Mildly verklempt? screw me? I HAPPILY get screwed

                    I'm stunned statism, communism and socialism blown away bloviating socialism

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                    • #70
                      SoberClurichaun
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 1437

                      If you have to ask it is all bad.. Don't do that to the guy.
                      "The tyrant will always find a pretext for his tyranny."
                      -Aesop's Fables The Wolf and the Lamb.

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                      • #71
                        Gryff
                        CGSSA Coordinator
                        • May 2006
                        • 12686

                        Originally posted by bako88fan
                        Interesting responses. About half are what I expected. I paid $600 with tax and DROS and it is a new gun. I haven't shot it yet and bought it factory new. The ammo is a 100 pack that I paid $40 for with tax. .
                        Then charge him $640 for the gun and ammo. It would be pretty much a douchebag move to add on another $100 just because you want him to subsidize the S&W for you.
                        My friends and family disavow all knowledge of my existence, let alone my opinions.

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                        • #72
                          Paperchasin
                          YOU are next!!
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 6407

                          Just buy what you really want next time and you can avoid all of these hypothetical scenarios in the future.
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                          • #73
                            USM0083
                            Member
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 332

                            You may have him as a neighbor for a long time, so I would sell it to him for exactly what you paid

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                            • #74
                              postal
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 4566

                              Note to self- never buy anything from bako88- EVER.

                              No wonder your itrader is "0"!!!

                              (yes I only have 1, since I dont usually sell my stuff)

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                              • #75
                                bob7122
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 5090

                                Originally posted by Spyguy
                                Without knowing what you paid, it's difficult to answer your question. Just remember he's doing you a favor by buying it from you, otherwise you'd have to go through the hassle of listing it, finding a buyer, and dealing with a stranger.

                                Normally, I'd say it's fair to add a reasonable markup for finding it and the trouble and cost of buying it. But in this case, I'd sell it to him for what you paid. Just because he said price is not an issue, doesn't mean you should take advantage of him.
                                this^
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                                it's a piss poor excuse to quit.
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