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  • #31
    Axewound
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 1260

    This victory was very much needed for moral, with crap like AB 2026 on the horizon. We needed a win reguardless of its significance. This was a supreme court decision, the highest court in our land.
    I'm glad we do not adhere to some European world court, the US would be screwed.
    Their is still a long campaign ahead, but moral is up. Tommorow is another day.
    Peace through superior firepower.

    liberals want my guns and conservatives want my porn, im not willing to part with either

    A man is a man his whole life, a woman is a woman until she becomes your wife.
    -Al Bundy

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    • #32
      Rogerbutthead
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2006
      • 3855

      It is a win so enjoy it.

      This is a never ending battle, so enjoy the good news and please vote this November.

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      • #33
        ocbruin
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 49

        I think there is more significance in this ruling.

        They specifically state self defense (although in the home) as part of the intent of the right to keep and bear arms. This really brings the point of the 2A pretty far from the "militia" argument which is often cited by the anti-gun crowd. We would have to see if it has legs, but the distinction between the right to self defense in the home versus out of the home has got to be tenuous at best.

        That the judgement states that 2A applies to individuals and includes self defense could be huge.

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        • #34
          Scorpiusdeus
          Member
          • Jul 2007
          • 332

          Originally posted by Hunter
          Holy crap, you REALLY need to READ a little more before post BS like this!
          No kidding. My blood pressure just shot up and my heart started racing. You could have killed me.

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          • #35
            Xerxes
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 1664

            Hate to say this but this ruling will help the gun grabbers.

            Now the gun grabbers will focus on "reasonable" gun control and all that effort they would waste on total bans will be re-directed as the Supreme Court told the gun grabbers a recipe on how exactly to win while they gave no such explicit instructions on what to do.

            After a brief flurry of apparent victories we will be inundated with the new gun grabber laws that address the courts concerns.

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            • #36
              Dr. Peter Venkman
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2006
              • 4899

              I believe it is still up in the air whether this victory was tactical or strategic. I am leaning more towards the former than the latter, sadly. 'Individual' rights mean nothing when they are subject to vague 'reasonable' restrictions.
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              "America is not at war. The Marine Corps is at war; America is at the mall."
              Originally posted by berto
              You're right. There's no possible way that CGN members marching alongside the Pink Pistols in the SF Pride Parade can do anything to dispel the stereotype that gun owners are conservative bigots clinging to their guns and bibles. Not a single person in the crowd is rational or reachable because the parade's for gay folks and it's in SF.

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              • #37
                bohoki
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 20825

                yea its babysteps

                but the minute the gays get a ruling they get all married and stuff

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                • #38
                  JeffM
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 4359

                  Mike, you may want to try again.

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                  • #39
                    PolishMike
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 6034

                    Originally posted by JeffM
                    Mike, you may want to try again.


                    hahaha where did you dig that gem up?
                    Artist formally known as CEO of Tracy Rifle and Pistol

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                    • #40
                      RAD-CDPII
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 996

                      Originally posted by Hopi
                      Spot On.

                      Oh, my 12oz glass is filled with 6 oz of liquid.....
                      Yea, and it use to have 12 like mine, and a few more before it. Just don't go out and drive now.
                      The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by thoes who have not got it.
                      George Bernard Shaw

                      AKA RAD-G27

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                      • #41
                        chickenfried
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 7160

                        not a huge win is still better than a loss.
                        Originally posted by victor1echo
                        Hollywood is satan!!!!
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                        • #42
                          drclark
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 1796

                          Those who were expecting that the court would strike down the 86 mg ban, '68 GCA and '34 NFA act in one fell swoop are clearly going to be disappointed. The court has given us a solid legal interpretation that the 2A is and individual right to have and carry arms in the event of a confrontation. Geez, all you half-fuller's ought to just be glad they didn't uphold the DC ban and uphold the idea that the 2A is a collective right.

                          drc

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                          • #43
                            JeffM
                            Veteran Member
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 4359

                            Originally posted by PolishMike
                            hahaha where did you dig that gem up?
                            It's in the SD build party thread. I HAD to use it sometime

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                            • #44
                              hoffmang
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 18448

                              Let's review.

                              Hickman nullified.

                              Silveira nullified.

                              All Second Amendment jurisprudence in the 9th Circuit wiped clean.

                              ATF put on a very short leash (think about that one for a moment.)

                              Silly interpretations of Miller ended.

                              Open Carry specifically called out as legal under Federal Con Law.

                              An actual individual right to keep and carry weapons and most all common firearms.

                              This is not a win how again?

                              -Gene
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                              • #45
                                leelaw
                                Junior Member
                                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 10445

                                Originally posted by hoffmang

                                This is not a win how again?
                                Because it doesn't allow me to have my 6-short-barreled, fully-automatic, silenced, nuclear bomb launching gatling gun.

                                Gura sold us out, I tell ya!
                                Last edited by leelaw; 06-27-2008, 1:21 AM.

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