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  • #31
    DBADRAT
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 1801

    BS, even if they ban internet sales.
    NRA Life Member

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    • #32
      gorn5150
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2007
      • 1453

      Originally posted by jeremiah12
      Would a warning from Calguns approved Davis and Associates gun friendly attorneys about this providing enough for CA LE to even get a search warrant to search your house when you return from your visit to a gun store or gun show in a free state change your mind? Here is the link: http://www.calgunlawyers.com/gun-own...1-border-buys/

      How did the UCD researchers find out about gunshow "loophole"? A few of them spent a lot of time on Calguns. How did I learn about Calguns, I attended a seminar last fall about this research. I do not agree with it. During the Q&A I asked what would happen when word got out and people simply quit driving their CA registered vehicles to the out of state gun shows and gun shops? They could use taxi's, local rental cars, buses, or even walk. The answer was that gun nuts were not that intelligent. After being here for awhile, I am beginning to believe that their are enough thinking that it is legal so I will keep it uncovered and flaunt it attitude to run cover for me so my precautions of never visiting gun stores or gun shows in OR, NV, or AZ with my CA plated vehicle or driving through agricultural check stations keeps me off the radar. I have a much lower chance of needing the services of an attorney.

      For the record, I am also the person that always does 80, even in a 55 zone but always makes sure there are a few other cars going faster than I am. I have never received a ticket in 38 years of driving. It is because I literally stay off the radar.
      Your link has nothing to do with ammo purchases. It talks about importing items that are not legal. There is no probable cause to stop someone who bought ammo out of state and brings it here. Probable cause is for illegal things.

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      • #33
        Artema
        Veteran Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 3821

        Originally posted by gorn5150
        Your link has nothing to do with ammo purchases. It talks about importing items that are not legal. There is no probable cause to stop someone who bought ammo out of state and brings it here. Probable cause is for illegal things.
        Yes!
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        Originally posted by Artema
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        • #34
          Rangem4
          Member
          • Jun 2012
          • 407

          Originally posted by BCA142
          Why would they confiscate it? It is legal and no different than buying a book or a pair of jeans. You may want to check and make sure they have what you want and also any box limits. You could place and order online for store pick up so you know it will be there.
          The agricultural road block may line you up and hand cuff you if you try to bring in an apple but ammo is OK. Thank God!
          sigpicA well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

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          • #35
            jeremiah12
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 2065

            Originally posted by layfz450
            he was thinking of going down to cabelas in reno, but some one at walmart this am was sayin that they were taking license plates of ppl from california buying at cabelas, so wen you got to the check point in the california border they were going to stop you and confiscate all the ammo! but i guess the old man didnt know what he was talking about hu!!
            Originally posted by gorn5150
            Your link has nothing to do with ammo purchases. It talks about importing items that are not legal. There is no probable cause to stop someone who bought ammo out of state and brings it here. Probable cause is for illegal things.
            Please read carefully. I never said it was illegal to buy ammo out of state. I was originally referring to the OP's inquiry about CA plates at the Reno Cabelas. Yes, that is happening. Is it over ammo, no, it is catching people who by magazines that hold 11+ rounds and bring them back. It is also for CA residents who go to NV gun shows and buy guns in the parking lot and bring them back to CA in violation of Federal and CA law.

            No, as far as I understand, there is no proposed legislation banning CA residents from purchasing ammo from out of state and bringing it back. UC Davis medical school has a private grant to study ways to reduce gun violence and they are using that money to study ways to reduce the flow of guns and gun related items that are not legal in CA from entering into CA. They have chosen to specifically focus on how California residents do this. Part of the research involves monitoring pro-gun sites to keep up on the latest trends. Calguns is one of their favorites.

            So keep talking about how you will all drive to Cabella's, just off of i-80 and over the border inside of NV. That is how they figured out this Cabella's was a great place to search for CA vehicles in the parking lot and follow those people into the store and take pictures while they purchased high cap magazines. Then the pictures were used to get a search warrant in CA so LE could search the home and many times found those high cap magazines had not been disassembled. I have heard a few were searched at the Agricultural check station by the CHP. I have not been able to confirm this. This has happened enough that Davis and associates has put out a warning.

            Now, with the political focus turning to regulating ammo sales, an intelligent UC researcher working on gun safety issue just might see an opportunity to add to his funding by proposing a study to survey the number of people from CA who currently buy ammo from out of state. The researcher already has people working at the gun shows and gun stores in the border towns. The lead researcher already has the Agricultural border station people collecting data on what they observe in vehicles about gun related items. There are already graduate students at the same stations doing video surveillance. A grant would bring in more money, but the terms of the grant can me met by only spending 1/4 of the money, so the researcher can use the rest of the money for his other pet projects. The grant will likely be funded because it is a political hot topic. He can apply directly to a state politician to fast track it through the very political UC system.

            Now, that politician will also be first in line to get the results and then if he wants to further his political career, he will introduce a bill next year to ban California residents from buying ammo from out of state and then importing it back into CA. All because we are telling the politicians and the people they pay this is exactly what we are going to do and this is where we will buy.

            We can scream it is unconstitutional all we want. Do we really need to waste our time and money on this fight?

            So, my out of state ammo is sitting in what looks like tackle boxes with a few old fishing poles thrown on top. It is hiding in plain sight. If I happen to pass through the agriculture check station, I will not even get counted as a Californian with gun related stuff in my vehicle.

            Go ahead and pass through uncovered. You just provide one more statistical point that gets used against gun owners.

            Again, I spent 20 years inside the academic system. I know how it works. I can also spot the graduate students at the gun shows and gun stores. It is so easy to trip them up because they no nothing about guns, or if they do, it is only about ARs and AKs because they believe those are the only two platforms gun people care about.

            Finally, do you really place your total trust in LE to be 100% honest and believe not one officer would ever go before a judge and say I saw person A get out of a car with CA plates at the Cabellas in Verdi. I followed the person into the store and witnessed the person purchase ammo and a high capacity magazine. The ammo part was true but the magazine part was not. Officer still gets the search warrant. During the search a high capacity magazine is not found but a CA "illegal" assault weapon is in your gun safe. You are screwed.

            Is it not better to take a few precautions to stay of the radar of CA LE when out of state when it is known they are visiting gun shows and gun stores on border towns. I take a taxi and use cash. It is the price a pay to stay off of the radar.

            I actually prefer to have a bunch of Californians flaunt it and catch the eye of CA LE. It makes it easier for me to keep a low profile.
            Anyone can look around and see the damage to the state and country inflicted by bad politicians.

            A vote is clearly much more dangerous than a gun.

            Why advocate restrictions on one right (voting) without comparable restrictions on another (self defense) (or, why not say 'Be a U.S. citizen' as the requirement for CCW)?

            --Librarian

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            • #36
              Artema
              Veteran Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 3821

              Originally posted by jeremiah12
              Please read carefully. I never said it was illegal to buy ammo out of state. I was originally referring to the OP's inquiry about CA plates at the Reno Cabelas. Yes, that is happening. Is it over ammo, no, it is catching people who by magazines that hold 11+ rounds and bring them back. It is also for CA residents who go to NV gun shows and buy guns in the parking lot and bring them back to CA in violation of Federal and CA law.

              No, as far as I understand, there is no proposed legislation banning CA residents from purchasing ammo from out of state and bringing it back. UC Davis medical school has a private grant to study ways to reduce gun violence and they are using that money to study ways to reduce the flow of guns and gun related items that are not legal in CA from entering into CA. They have chosen to specifically focus on how California residents do this. Part of the research involves monitoring pro-gun sites to keep up on the latest trends. Calguns is one of their favorites.

              So keep talking about how you will all drive to Cabella's, just off of i-80 and over the border inside of NV. That is how they figured out this Cabella's was a great place to search for CA vehicles in the parking lot and follow those people into the store and take pictures while they purchased high cap magazines. Then the pictures were used to get a search warrant in CA so LE could search the home and many times found those high cap magazines had not been disassembled. I have heard a few were searched at the Agricultural check station by the CHP. I have not been able to confirm this. This has happened enough that Davis and associates has put out a warning.

              Now, with the political focus turning to regulating ammo sales, an intelligent UC researcher working on gun safety issue just might see an opportunity to add to his funding by proposing a study to survey the number of people from CA who currently buy ammo from out of state. The researcher already has people working at the gun shows and gun stores in the border towns. The lead researcher already has the Agricultural border station people collecting data on what they observe in vehicles about gun related items. There are already graduate students at the same stations doing video surveillance. A grant would bring in more money, but the terms of the grant can me met by only spending 1/4 of the money, so the researcher can use the rest of the money for his other pet projects. The grant will likely be funded because it is a political hot topic. He can apply directly to a state politician to fast track it through the very political UC system.

              Now, that politician will also be first in line to get the results and then if he wants to further his political career, he will introduce a bill next year to ban California residents from buying ammo from out of state and then importing it back into CA. All because we are telling the politicians and the people they pay this is exactly what we are going to do and this is where we will buy.

              We can scream it is unconstitutional all we want. Do we really need to waste our time and money on this fight?

              So, my out of state ammo is sitting in what looks like tackle boxes with a few old fishing poles thrown on top. It is hiding in plain sight. If I happen to pass through the agriculture check station, I will not even get counted as a Californian with gun related stuff in my vehicle.

              Go ahead and pass through uncovered. You just provide one more statistical point that gets used against gun owners.

              Again, I spent 20 years inside the academic system. I know how it works. I can also spot the graduate students at the gun shows and gun stores. It is so easy to trip them up because they no nothing about guns, or if they do, it is only about ARs and AKs because they believe those are the only two platforms gun people care about.

              Finally, do you really place your total trust in LE to be 100% honest and believe not one officer would ever go before a judge and say I saw person A get out of a car with CA plates at the Cabellas in Verdi. I followed the person into the store and witnessed the person purchase ammo and a high capacity magazine. The ammo part was true but the magazine part was not. Officer still gets the search warrant. During the search a high capacity magazine is not found but a CA "illegal" assault weapon is in your gun safe. You are screwed.

              Is it not better to take a few precautions to stay of the radar of CA LE when out of state when it is known they are visiting gun shows and gun stores on border towns. I take a taxi and use cash. It is the price a pay to stay off of the radar.

              I actually prefer to have a bunch of Californians flaunt it and catch the eye of CA LE. It makes it easier for me to keep a low profile.
              Interesting read. I really hope they don't block online sales though, it is the only way to get Underwood as far as I know.
              - SAAMI Pressure Specs
              Originally posted by Artema
              I'd go to the grocery store with polymer, and I'd go to war with steel.

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              • #37
                Hispanic_Hercules
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 1423

                Originally posted by layfz450
                he was thinking of going down to cabelas in reno, but some one at walmart this am was sayin that they were taking license plates of ppl from california buying at cabelas, so wen you got to the check point in the california border they were going to stop you and confiscate all the ammo! but i guess the old man didnt know what he was talking about hu!!
                Just make sure Cabela's isn't limiting ammo if the sole purpose of his trip is to buy cases of ammo. I was up in Reno a few months ago and Cabelas was limiting the ammo to 5 boxes per customer. Needless to say I was pretty unhappy as I found this out the hard way!
                Last edited by Hispanic_Hercules; 07-19-2013, 9:47 PM.
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                • #38
                  jeremiah12
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 2065

                  Originally posted by Artema
                  Interesting read. I really hope they don't block online sales though, it is the only way to get Underwood as far as I know.
                  Put on your creative thinking hat. As a 2nd generation 4Runner owner that likes to go offroading their are certain things that CA bans that are very useful for this group. Some of these items they have even brow-beaten shops in Reno to not sell if they even suspect the buyer is from CA. Some even ask for ID. Buying online is cheaper anyway. Many still buy online while sitting at home in CA. Yes, the companies have policies of not shipping to CA and not shipping to anybody who pays with a CC that has a CA billing address.

                  Maybe because we actually get together for offroad trips we spread how to do this by word of mouth so it has never needed to be discussed on any of the forums? Some of you should try this, it is also a great way to find places off the beaten path in the forest or on BLM land where you can shoot hassle free from LE and the jerks that visit the easy to get to shooting places.

                  You think gun laws are complicated in CA, try the smog regulations and dealing with all the rules and regulations of CARB.
                  Anyone can look around and see the damage to the state and country inflicted by bad politicians.

                  A vote is clearly much more dangerous than a gun.

                  Why advocate restrictions on one right (voting) without comparable restrictions on another (self defense) (or, why not say 'Be a U.S. citizen' as the requirement for CCW)?

                  --Librarian

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                  • #39
                    Artema
                    Veteran Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 3821

                    Originally posted by jeremiah12
                    Put on your creative thinking hat. As a 2nd generation 4Runner owner that likes to go offroading their are certain things that CA bans that are very useful for this group. Some of these items they have even brow-beaten shops in Reno to not sell if they even suspect the buyer is from CA. Some even ask for ID. Buying online is cheaper anyway. Many still buy online while sitting at home in CA. Yes, the companies have policies of not shipping to CA and not shipping to anybody who pays with a CC that has a CA billing address.

                    Maybe because we actually get together for offroad trips we spread how to do this by word of mouth so it has never needed to be discussed on any of the forums? Some of you should try this, it is also a great way to find places off the beaten path in the forest or on BLM land where you can shoot hassle free from LE and the jerks that visit the easy to get to shooting places.

                    You think gun laws are complicated in CA, try the smog regulations and dealing with all the rules and regulations of CARB.
                    I feel for you, but I'm just stationed here. Texas ID, plates, missing catalytic converter due to no CARB restrictions, etc. I still have to obey your window tint and gun laws, though. If they pass this stuff I'll just max out a credit card at Underwood before the cutoff.
                    - SAAMI Pressure Specs
                    Originally posted by Artema
                    I'd go to the grocery store with polymer, and I'd go to war with steel.

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                    • #40
                      desertexplore
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 4221

                      Wow, some people want to really believe some of the rumors out there. I go to the Reno Cabellas often and they are usually out of ammo lately. I would call ahead first and right now, Scheels is full of the Blazer 9mm.

                      As for Officers coming over and grabbing plate numbers, never seen it and doubt they would waste their time chasing ghosts. Seriously? As for the Ag check station, the Inspectors typically see a California plate and don't even bother to ask about fruit, just wave you by.

                      OP- Go to Nevada and buy all the ammo you want, if you can find it.

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                      • #41
                        Liberty Belle
                        Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 394

                        I wouldn't advise driving to AZ for ammo. It's pricy right now and they are limiting the amount you can buy. I was at the local gun shop this morning and they had pallets & pallets of 20 ga & 12 ga yet still had a 5 box limit. loose Mil surp ,223 was selling for $62.50 p/100 rd bag. No .22lr or 9mm :-(

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