RECORD ALL YOUR SERIAL #'s !!!

[deebix]

Oh? I'm supposed to pay a fee for something a pen, camera, text/word/excel/openoffice/freeware can do for free?

I know I'm not the only person in the world with a "Log Book" to track the shots fired/maintentance of my firearms.

I have the high tech version of write in the rain. Can your unsecure (hackable) software do that? Maybe if you have a new samsung galaxy 4 'sport' or whatever they call that water resistant one....

No thanks. Pics, text, scans of reciepts etc.... all burned on cd stored in multiple locations with all the data wiped off the pc if the pc is compromised. Also have some thumb drives with it hidden in the house.

Why would I leave this stuff on my computer????????????????

My CC info was stolen twice- why would I risk leaving this info on a computer?

Stupid, STUPID.... STUPID!!!!!!!

Geez man. What's with the super snobbish patronizing post? Whether you want to use the software I recommended is up to you. Did your wife not let you make waffles for dinner tonight? Why are you so angry...

[Wolfrage]

I bought the Android version and keep having trouble entering data. When I hit the backspace on my phone it inserts something in the field. Do you know what's going on with that? It's done that with two different phones and a Tablet.

That's odd -- can you email me at alan AT mygundb.com with the type of devices you are using and I'll try duplicating the issue. Once I can do that, I can get it fixed.

[Wolfrage]

a paper notepad than can be destroyed if needed would be better than a hard drive than can be opened by the black helicopter guys who come to confiscate all the registered and non registered firearms

I'd be more worried about them having a warrant to just go and look, as opposed to either a notepad or digital info, in that case.

[RonnieP]

a paper notepad than can be destroyed if needed would be better than a hard drive than can be opened by the black helicopter guys who come to confiscate all the registered and non registered firearms

They didn't need a black helicopter to confiscate guns during Katrina.

[Wolfrage]

They didn't need a black helicopter to confiscate guns during Katrina.

Nor did they need to read people's notepads nor examine their computers.

[Germz]

Geez man. What's with the super snobbish patronizing post? Whether you want to use the software I recommended is up to you. Did your wife not let you make waffles for dinner tonight? Why are you so angry...

His name is postal...i thought that was a give away. Dont worry OP, I understand why an electronic database is relevant. Just understand that (and I'd argue) a large number Calgunners here are Pre Gen-X or Gen-X and are used to old way (and you know the saying about old dogs and tricks).

Just an observation, but it seem smost people don't look at comparative perspectives when posting either.

[RonnieP]

His name is postal...i thought that was a give away. Dont worry OP, I understand why an electronic database is relevant. Just understand that (and I'd argue) a large number Calgunners here are Pre Gen-X or Gen-X and are used to old way (and you know the saying about old dogs and tricks).

Just an observation, but it seem smost people don't look at comparative perspectives when posting either.

Or maybe it's because some of us DO understand that anything on your computer/iphone/ipad/electronic device isn't 100% secure.

How do you or anyone else be sure that the app isn't sending your info to some database?

[deebix]

Firewall. How do you know calguns doesn't send a record of every PM you make for gun sales transactions to the feds? Want to start the speculation gyration?

[Findout]

Ok,here's my list, since you asked..

Glock 17 S#.....

Oh wait, we aren't supposed to list them here?

But yeah, I have mine memorized and written down in places other than where I store them. Anyone who stores that information on their computer/phone or any other device that is connected to the internet is a fool, even aside from the risk of simply losing the data. A piece of paper in a secure location is not going to disappear when your hard drive takes a shidump or you lose your phone.

[Findout]

Or maybe it's because some of us DO understand that anything on your computer/iphone/ipad/electronic device isn't 100% secure.

How do you or anyone else be sure that the app isn't sending your info to some database?

Yep, and with all the posts here about compromised credit cards, it should always be in everyone's mind that there are always people out there looking to compromise you and your stuff, if only you give them the opportunity.

A piece of paper stored in the right place CANNOT be compromised, especially when what is written on it is not intelligible if you don't know what it is.

For example, this isn't the scheme I use, but as a quick example.. I have a piece of paper labeled "PASSWORDS"

Underneath that is written:
8EA4U6F

8G6E14MF

4GC82IAG

What are the serial numbers on the "firearms" I listed above? You get two free internets if you can figure it out.

[XxWoodsHunterxX]

just printed out a few hard copies, multiple times deleted the info, no name, just model & #

left 2 in the safe, 1 in each BOB, 1 copy in 3 friends' safes, 2 copies out of state in a file

I like your style.

[Wolfrage]

Yep, and with all the posts here about compromised credit cards, it should always be in everyone's mind that there are always people out there looking to compromise you and your stuff, if only you give them the opportunity.

2 completely different things. I ran the abuse department for a major internet infrastructure company and it was my job to deal with the people using our services for Bad Bad Things (tm). What I learned from that and having to deal with local police and the FBI in that job was this:

99% of all hacks comes from foreign countries. Even if one of them were to get into your system, realize you store firearm information on your computer, hack the MyGunDB database file (or whatever else you use instead) and get a full list of all your firearms... so what? What would they do with it? They're not even in the same country.

Let's say it's that 1% though -- do you think someone that doesn't live up the street from you is going to find that info useful? Let's go further and say it is a neighbor doing it -- they are close enough to rob you, so you'd have to worry. But the chances of a neighbor hacking you, looking for your firearm data and then using that to rob you is rather slim. Or you have a major dick for a neighbor

But let's say it's the US Gov't - they would need to target you specifically, succeed in hacking the system, succeed in finding your data and decrpyting it (which would be fun to watch when it comes to 256bit AES encryption) and then use that info against you... OR they could simply go into your house and look for themselves with a warrant (or without, if you think the gov't would do that), which would be far less difficult for them.

Now, the other major thing about hacking in general is this: it's almost never, ever targeted. Instead, entire netblocks are scanned for vulnerabilities and automated scripted attacks are initiated. Then, most of the time a mail relay server is setup for sending spam, and maybe more. If the script is setup for it, it will scan the system looking for CC numbers (which are easy to scan for) and pictures -- maybe other banking info and stuff as well -- but firearm data? Why? That info would be useless, unlike banking info.

I'd spend more time making sure my insurance coverage for my house and firearms is adequate than worrying about someone trying to snag my firearm data off my computer.

Now, that said, could a hacker go looking for your firearm info to use it in some as-yet unknown way? Sure. And we could also see Obama at a range firing with a full auto MP5, correcting someone about the difference between clips and magazines. Actually, the latter would be more likely, but it IS possible, I agree.

A piece of paper stored in the right place CANNOT be compromised, especially when what is written on it is not intelligible if you don't know what it is.

Sure, but it can be lost, burnt, coffee stained, etc. And a database stored on a thumbdrive provides the same amount of security, privacy and reliability. And why would using an app like mine,or excel, or another database app, mean you couldn't use the same exact method to obfuscate your info like serials? You'd have all the benefits of paper, plus the added security of data encryption and passwording.

And to anyone worried about your computer being compromised, install TrueCrypt -- it's free, easy to use and if you go the extra step, you can setup a hidden area inside another encrypted section that makes it so it's impossible to tell that you have a hidden section, even if you are forced at gun point to give out your password info. In fact, if you use TrueCrypt, your data would be far more protected than your piece of paper would be locked in a bank -- and far more convenient Everyone should check it out.

I believe security and privacy are extremely important, and need to be taken seriously, but there are a lot of misconceptions about hacking and computer data security.