2nd form of ID question

[Iron Squid]

I went to purchase a handgun the other day. I had my DL, my handgun card, and my nurses license. At the time of purchase I realized that my nurses license had expired a few days previously. Which meant I couldn't use it.

The only other possible thing I have in my name is the mortgage statement that I get from the bank. Both cars are in the wife's name, as are the utilities. Almost every other bill is in both our names, but none of those could even work.

The gun store said a mortgage statement wouldn't work. But I've been told by other stores that it would. So who is right in this?

[halifax]

If you've got a mortgage you've got a property tax bill, no?

[Librarian]

For handguns, it isn't 'second form of ID', it's 'proof of residency'.

See the DOJ's FAQ on what is acceptable - http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/dlrfaqs#33G

[Iron Squid]

For handguns, it isn't 'second form of ID', it's 'proof of residency'.

See the DOJ's FAQ on what is acceptable - http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/dlrfaqs#33G

Proof of residency is the correct way to phrase it, yes.

I've read the FAQ and mortgage bills aren't specifically mentioned in there, but it seems that they could fall under utility bill. Or they could not. That's why I'm hoping Calguns can clarify this because two different gun stores have told me two different things.

[canative]

I always use my vehicle registration as the second form of ID

[snapshot7]

Proof of residency is the correct way to phrase it, yes.

I've read the FAQ and mortgage bills aren't specifically mentioned in there, but it seems that they could fall under utility bill. Or they could not. That's why I'm hoping Calguns can clarify this because two different gun stores have told me two different things.

I always use my vehicle registration as the second form of ID

Yes, I have also been curious of this too. I rent a room from a home owner, so my name is not on any of the utility bills. All I have to show proof of residents would be my car insurance or registration from the dmv. Will one of those two work? Guess I will just ask the dealer from which I purchase the hand gun.

[CitiZen-75]

Car registration should work. That's what I used last time.

[snapshot7]

Car registration should work. That's what I used last time.

I did a some more research and yes it will work. Thank you for confirming that.

[camcojb]

I went to purchase a handgun the other day. I had my DL, my handgun card, and my nurses license. At the time of purchase I realized that my nurses license had expired a few days previously. Which meant I couldn't use it.

The only other possible thing I have in my name is the mortgage statement that I get from the bank. Both cars are in the wife's name, as are the utilities. Almost every other bill is in both our names, but none of those could even work.

The gun store said a mortgage statement wouldn't work. But I've been told by other stores that it would. So who is right in this?

Mortgage statement worked for the Sacto CCW; I have not tried it on a gun purchase though.

[Quiet]

11 CCR 4045
Evidence of Residency Documentation. Definitions and Requirements.
The following definitions and requirements apply to documents intended to serve as evidence of residency for the acquisition of a handgun pursuant to Penal Code section 26845:

a.1. “Utility bill” means a statement of charges for providing direct service to the individual's residence by either a physical connection (i.e., hard wired telephone or cable connection, or a water or gas pipeline connection), or a telemetric connection (i.e., satellite television or radio broadcast service) to a non-mobile, fixed antenna reception device.
2. The utility bill statement date must be within three months of the current date.
3. The utility bill must bear on its face the individual's name and either of the following:
A. The individual's current residential address as declared on the Dealer's Record of Sale (DROS) form.
B. The individual's residential address as it appears on his or her California Driver License or California Identification Card, or change of address attachment thereto.

b.1. “Residential lease” means either of the following:
A. A signed and dated contract by which the individual (tenant) agrees to pay a specified monetary sum or provide other consideration for the right to occupy an abode for a specified period of time.
B. A signed and dated rental agreement by which the individual (tenant) agrees to pay a specified monetary sum or provide other consideration at fixed intervals for the right to occupy an abode.
2. The residential lease must bear the individual's name and either of the following:
A. The individual's current residential address as declared on the DROS form.
B. The individual's address as it appears on his or her California Driver License or California Identification Card, or change of address attachment thereto.

c.1. “Property deed” means either of the following:
A. A valid deed of trust for the individual's property of current residence that identifies the individual as a grantee of the trust.
B. A valid Certificate of Title issued by a licensed title insurance company that identifies the individual as a title holder to his or her property of current residence.
2. The property deed must bear the individual's name and either of the following:
A. The individual's current residential address as declared on the DROS form.
B. The individual's address as it appears on his or her California Driver License or California Identification Card, or change of address attachment thereto.

d. “Other evidence of residency as permitted by the Department of Justice” means either of the following:
1. A current, government-issued (city, county, special district, state, or federal) license, permit, or registration, other than a California Driver License or California Identification Card, that has a specified expiration date or period of validity. The license, permit, or registration must bear the individual's name and either of the following:
A. The individual's current residential address as declared on the DROS form.
B. The individual's address as it appears on his or her California Driver License or California Identification Card, or change of address attachment thereto.
2. A valid peace officer credential issued by a California law enforcement agency to an active, reserve, or retired peace officer.

[DTOM CA!]

When my Son turned 18 I bought him a .22 rifle. He lives at my house so does not have a second form of residency. Had to print a lease agreement from the internet, fill it out for him to get the gun.

[ke6guj]

When my Son turned 18 I bought him a .22 rifle. He lives at my house so does not have a second form of residency. Had to print a lease agreement from the internet, fill it out for him to get the gun.

why would you need to do that. there is no requirement for a second form of residency needed to buy a rifle in CA. All he needed to comply with the law was his DL/ID with his current residence listed, that's it. no lease agreement.

And if you bought it for him, then you could have done the DROS and then just given it to him after you picked it up.

[Gem1950]

Ralph's card?

[ke6guj]

Ralph's card?

would do you no good in meeting the requirements to purchase a firearm.

[rromeo]

I think the Ralph's card is only valid if you're The Dude.