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  • #31
    Fritz265
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 1523

    As an honorably retired military member, I'm also exempt from the HSC requirement. One positive......
    "Those who fear your guns do so because they know they are guilty of things for which they should be shot"

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    • #32
      Fritz265
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 1523

      The following qualify for Handgun Safety Certificate (HSC) exempt status:
      Peace officer (active California)
      Peace officer (active federal)
      Peace officer (honorably retired California or federal)
      Reserve peace officer (as defined in Penal Code Section 832.6)
      Persons who have successfully completed P.O.S.T. 832 PC firearms training
      Federally licensed firearm collector who has a DOJ-issued COE who is acquiring a federally-defined curio/relic
      Person to whom a handgun is being returned, where he/she is the owner of the firearm
      Carry Concealed Weapon (CCW) Permit Holder
      Military - active duty
      Military - honorably retired
      Military - active reserve
      Certain particular and limited authority peace officers
      Persons who hold a DOJ-issued special weapons permit
      Persons taking possession of firearms pursuant to specific conditions related to operation of law acquisitions
      Law enforcement service weapon passed to surviving family member
      "Those who fear your guns do so because they know they are guilty of things for which they should be shot"

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      • #33
        paul0660
        In Memoriam
        • Jul 2007
        • 15669

        Looks like he can carry off duty but isn't exempt from HSC.

        OP, what piece of paper or metal do you carry to prove your carry right?
        *REMOVE THIS PART BEFORE POSTING*

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        • #34
          Fritz265
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 1523

          Originally posted by paul0660
          Looks like he can carry off duty but isn't exempt from HSC.

          OP, what piece of paper or metal do you carry to prove your carry right?
          He stated that he's a CA Peace Officer which, if true, would indeed make him exempt from the HSC requirement.
          "Those who fear your guns do so because they know they are guilty of things for which they should be shot"

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          • #35
            paul0660
            In Memoriam
            • Jul 2007
            • 15669

            Originally posted by Fritz265
            He stated that he's a CA Peace Officer which, if true, would indeed make him exempt from the HSC requirement.
            You have to assume he is authorized under 830.5 (c).

            I am AMAZED that someone with that responsibility didn't know the answer to the original question

            Left side of the bell curve, I hope.
            *REMOVE THIS PART BEFORE POSTING*

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            • #36
              Fritz265
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 1523

              Originally posted by paul0660
              You have to assume he is authorized under 830.5 (c).

              I am AMAZED that someone with that responsibility didn't know the answer to the original question

              Left side of the bell curve, I hope.
              I typically start off with assuming that posters are telling the truth until proven otherwise. It's bad form to call someone a liar without knowing otherwise, as implausible as their comments may be.
              "Those who fear your guns do so because they know they are guilty of things for which they should be shot"

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              • #37
                chile
                Junior Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 29

                Originally posted by paul0660
                Looks like he can carry off duty but isn't exempt from HSC.

                OP, what piece of paper or metal do you carry to prove your carry right?
                Well, lets see I have my California state issued peace officer identification card (which I am authorized under 830.5). And my PC-832 certificate.

                Man, if I knew this was such a hostile forum I would have steered away. Didn't know I would get hounded over a question that simply confused me.

                And I am curious why my responsibility as a correctional officer would be questionable to know everything about firearm sells and FFL guidelines. I am human just like anyone else. Like I stated, I thought I was correct with having to go through a FFL with transfer and was being argued with that I didn't. I was simply clarifying somewhere I would most likely get a clear answer from. Forgive me, I shall refrain from asking any other questions that might question my intelligence to other people who don't know me what-so-ever.
                Last edited by chile; 02-27-2013, 9:22 PM.

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                • #38
                  Fritz265
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 1523

                  Originally posted by chile
                  Well, lets see I have my California state issued peace officer identification card (which I am authorized under 830.5). And my PC-832 certificate.

                  Man, if I knew this was such a hostile forum I would have steered away. Didn't know I would get hounded over a question that simply confused me.

                  And I am curious why my responsibility as a correctional officer would be questionable to know everything about firearm sells and FFL guidelines. I am human just like anyone else.
                  Don't worry about it chile. Welcome to calguns.
                  "Those who fear your guns do so because they know they are guilty of things for which they should be shot"

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                  • #39
                    Zymergist
                    Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 262

                    Welcome to the Internet in general!

                    FWIW your answers and explanations make perfect sense to me. As a CDC officer there would be no need to study and know penal code or aspects of enforcement, just detainee/prisoner security related laws and practices. And hell most patrol officers are not very well read on gun laws as evidenced by the harassment many AR owners get for fully compliant guns.

                    Don't let it get to you, as the 2nd amendment is under active attack at the moment plenty of people are a little touchy to things that look out of the ordinary. If you step back and look at someone who can have a serial # run, is exempt from the HSC, but does not know transfer procedures, it does come off a bit unusual at first glance. I hope you stick around, there are lots of good resources and people here.
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                    • #40
                      Dvrjon
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 11367

                      Chile--sorry i got here late. My SIL is a CDCR CO, and carries under

                      Penal code 830.5:
                      The following persons are peace officers whose authority
                      extends to any place in the state...Except
                      as specified in this section, these peace officers may carry firearms
                      only if authorized and under those terms and conditions specified by
                      their employing agency:
                      (b) A correctional officer employed by the Department of
                      Corrections and Rehabilitation...

                      (c) The following persons may carry a firearm while not on duty: a
                      parole officer of the Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation,
                      or the Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation, Division of
                      Juvenile Justice, a correctional officer or correctional counselor
                      employed by the Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation,

                      (d) Persons permitted to carry firearms pursuant to this section,
                      either on or off duty, shall meet the training requirements of
                      Section 832 and shall qualify with the firearm at least quarterly.

                      What really pisses my SIL off is that he has to qualify quarterly, and I'm on a two-year rotation.
                      He carries a non-laminated card so it can be signed off.

                      Your HSC exemption codes are: X-31 (Peace Officer); X-81 (POST 832 PC)

                      Welcome aboard.

                      JR

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                      • #41
                        edwardfa
                        Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 490

                        Originally posted by Fritz265
                        I heard you can use a website called www.isthispiecelegit.com
                        Is this a legit website?
                        BANG!

                        Originally posted by goodoljake
                        ...It's like chasing a Chupacabra or Sasquatch...

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                        • #42
                          Fritz265
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 1523

                          Originally posted by edwardfa
                          Is this a legit website?
                          LOL... No, but feel free to check it out...
                          "Those who fear your guns do so because they know they are guilty of things for which they should be shot"

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                          • #43
                            edwardfa
                            Member
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 490

                            Originally posted by Fritz265
                            LOL... No, but feel free to check it out...
                            Best website ever! Has lots of info!

                            And highly recommended! LOL LOL
                            Last edited by edwardfa; 03-05-2013, 9:52 AM.
                            BANG!

                            Originally posted by goodoljake
                            ...It's like chasing a Chupacabra or Sasquatch...

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