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  • #16
    alfred1222
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2010
    • 7331

    Originally posted by paul0660
    How did you check it?



    Really? What job?

    Suspicious thread imo. The guy knows a lot but not much.
    I agree this thread smells... It feels like the OP is fishing for people to condone illegal activity
    Originally posted by Kestryll
    This guy is a complete and total idiot.
    /thread.

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    • #17
      DDM4
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 65

      I dont know about"chile" but it was good info for me so thanks to those that responded.

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      • #18
        paul0660
        In Memoriam
        • Jul 2007
        • 15669

        Originally posted by DDM4
        I dont know about"chile" but it was good info for me so thanks to those that responded.
        When you see chile let him know the info.
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        • #19
          jdouglas
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 1101

          It has to go through an FFL because you might be a felon or mentally incompetent!

          While background checks can be good when you're selling to strangers, having to run background checks on family members or friends you know well enough to trust your life with is just complete and utter bullcrap. It's the law, but boy can laws be stupid sometimes.
          WARNING: THE ABOVE POST MAY CONTAIN EXCESSIVE USE OF SARCASM.

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          • #20
            Fritz265
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 1523

            Originally posted by jdouglas
            It has to go through an FFL because you might be a felon or mentally incompetent!

            While background checks can be good when you're selling to strangers, having to run background checks on family members or friends you know well enough to trust your life with is just complete and utter bullcrap. It's the law, but boy can laws be stupid sometimes.
            It's just a form of taxation. $25 bucks per background check adds up quickly.
            "Those who fear your guns do so because they know they are guilty of things for which they should be shot"

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            • #21
              edwardfa
              Member
              • Sep 2011
              • 490

              Originally posted by Oceanbob
              Yes.. you both have to go to an FFL and do a Private Party Transfer. Cost is $35.

              The $19 form is for people that are related to each other. (family)

              That form is here:



              But it won't work for your situation.

              It will not be a problem selling the 9MM to you.

              They don't check the registered owner out or even if the handgun has ever been registered. All they want is for the NEW OWNER (you) to get checked out (10 day wait) and they will register the 9MM to you.

              What the seller needs:

              A Drivers license or California ID.

              Nothing else.

              What the buyer (you) need:

              A Drivers license and a 2nd form of proof of residence, like a Car Registration that has your name and address on it that matches you drivers license.

              A HSC card. (you must have a handgun safety certificate) cost is $25 from a FFL. Simple test.

              $35 bucks for the FFL.

              Wait 10 days and go pick her up. At pick up you will do a gun safety check and be required to buy a gun lock. (make sure the magazines are 10 rounds or less; some of these older 9MMs had hi caps)

              Be safe. Have fun.
              BANG!

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              ...It's like chasing a Chupacabra or Sasquatch...

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              • #22
                Fritz265
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 1523

                They do indeed, primarily to ensure that the gun hasn't been reported stolen.
                "Those who fear your guns do so because they know they are guilty of things for which they should be shot"

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                • #23
                  BrokerB
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 5402

                  i meant no 30 day wait for ppt or consignment.


                  And as far as all the paranoid.."condoning illegal activities".. Go ahead and make full auto pistols all day long. Does not mean you wont get jailed by jack booted thugs with a badge. I do condone many activities that are a constitutional and god given right - that the treasonous gov official has declared "illegal". Owning certain pieces of shaped plastics and metal are illegal...Not having enough USA made products in a foreign made machine..illegal.. Not being able to buy a new handgun owned by an FFL that's brand new -more then 1 every 30 days is retarded. But you cant really do it unless that FFL is willing to lose their license.


                  Civil disobedience needs to start real soon
                  Beans and Bullets

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                  • #24
                    fred40
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 1844

                    Originally posted by chile
                    I am new to the private party gun scene, so I wanted to get some info before I pulled the trigger on this.

                    A co-worker of mine has a 9MM handgun that has never been registered he wants to sell. Checked serial number and it comes back clean.

                    Now, my question is do we have to go thru a FFL and register it? Or can I keep it unregistered here in California? He was also talking about a DOJ form I can feel out and do it that way that only costs $19.

                    Can anyone enlighten me on this a little more, was looking some stuff up online but couldn't get a real solid answer on this.
                    How did you check the serial number? I thought this was done during the DROS.

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                    • #25
                      Fritz265
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 1523

                      Originally posted by fred40
                      How did you check the serial number? I thought this was done during the DROS.
                      I heard you can use a website called www.isthispiecelegit.com
                      "Those who fear your guns do so because they know they are guilty of things for which they should be shot"

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                      • #26
                        paul0660
                        In Memoriam
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 15669

                        Civil disobedience needs to start real soon
                        I know you are just blowing smoke, but do remember to choose your battles wisely when you grow up.
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                        • #27
                          chile
                          Junior Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 29

                          Thanks for the info guys. In no way was I trying to condone any illegal ativity what-so-ever. I was simply trying to get the answer I thought was correct, so I don't end up doing something I don't need to that is not the legal way to do it. The whole "unregistered part threw me for a loop since it is a handgun that was before the time you had to register everything and hasn't beem since it came in effect. As for getting the serial number ran I have a family member who is a FFL dealer out of state that ran it for me and a friend at my local PD. As for me not having have the handgun safety certificate, I am a CDC officer in which the only real worthwhile benefit of our peace officer statis IMO is to be able to carry off duty.

                          I am a noob to most aspects, I know some basics. Private party sales in California I am still learning and when the co-worker I am possibly buying from said all I had to do was feel out a $19 form I was arguing with him that we had to thru FFL regardless and he was arguing the other way.

                          Post was strictly for informational purposes.

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                          • #28
                            Oceanbob
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 12720

                            Originally posted by chile
                            Thanks for the info guys. In no way was I trying to condone any illegal ativity what-so-ever. I was simply trying to get the answer I thought was correct, so I don't end up doing something I don't need to that is not the legal way to do it. The whole "unregistered part threw me for a loop since it is a handgun that was before the time you had to register everything and hasn't beem since it came in effect. As for getting the serial number ran I have a family member who is a FFL dealer out of state that ran it for me and a friend at my local PD. As for me not having have the handgun safety certificate, I am a CDC officer in which the only real worthwhile benefit of our peace officer statis IMO is to be able to carry off duty.

                            I am a noob to most aspects, I know some basics. Private party sales in California I am still learning and when the co-worker I am possibly buying from said all I had to do was feel out a $19 form I was arguing with him that we had to thru FFL regardless and he was arguing the other way.

                            Post was strictly for informational purposes.
                            Thanks..and Welcome to Cal Guns..!
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                            • #29
                              quiet-wyatt
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 934

                              Originally posted by chile
                              Ok. Thanks guys. I don't need the HSC since my job allows me to carry off duty. Not my first handgun, just never bought a used one before. Only getting it to have something at home for the wife to use.
                              YES - You DO need a HSC (Handgun Safety Certificate)...

                              Effective January 1, 2015, all Firearm Safety Certificate (FSC) Program DOJ Certified Instructor applicants are required to have a valid Certificate of Eligibility (COE) and must obtain a COE prior to applying to become a FSC Program DOJ Certified Instructor. The Certificate of Eligibility instructions and application are available at Certificate of Eligibility. Please note that COEs must be renewed annually. The COE processing time is approximately 4 – 8 weeks.


                              "First, unless exempt, individuals must possess a Handgun Safety Certificate (HSC) prior to purchasing or acquiring a handgun. "

                              Also:
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                              To be is to do. (Plato)

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                              • #30
                                Fritz265
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 1523

                                Originally posted by quiet-wyatt
                                YES - You DO need a HSC (Handgun Safety Certificate)...

                                Effective January 1, 2015, all Firearm Safety Certificate (FSC) Program DOJ Certified Instructor applicants are required to have a valid Certificate of Eligibility (COE) and must obtain a COE prior to applying to become a FSC Program DOJ Certified Instructor. The Certificate of Eligibility instructions and application are available at Certificate of Eligibility. Please note that COEs must be renewed annually. The COE processing time is approximately 4 – 8 weeks.


                                "First, unless exempt, individuals must possess a Handgun Safety Certificate (HSC) prior to purchasing or acquiring a handgun. "

                                Also:
                                http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Th...ty_Certificate
                                An active CA or federal Peace Officer is exempt from the HSC requirement.
                                "Those who fear your guns do so because they know they are guilty of things for which they should be shot"

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