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  • chile
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 29

    Buying unregistered handgun question...

    I am new to the private party gun scene, so I wanted to get some info before I pulled the trigger on this.

    A co-worker of mine has a 9MM handgun that has never been registered he wants to sell. Checked serial number and it comes back clean.

    Now, my question is do we have to go thru a FFL and register it? Or can I keep it unregistered here in California? He was also talking about a DOJ form I can feel out and do it that way that only costs $19.

    Can anyone enlighten me on this a little more, was looking some stuff up online but couldn't get a real solid answer on this.
  • #2
    freonr22
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Dec 2008
    • 12945

    You HAVE to go to an Ffl for transfer
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    Originally posted by dantodd
    We will win. We are right. We will never stop fighting.
    Originally posted by bwiese
    They don't believe it's possible, but then Alison didn't believe there'd be 350K - 400K OLLs in CA either.
    Originally posted by louisianagirl
    Our fate is ours alone to decide as long as we remain armed heavily enough to dictate it.

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    • #3
      Oceanbob
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jun 2010
      • 12720

      Yes.. you both have to go to an FFL and do a Private Party Transfer. Cost is $35.

      The $19 form is for people that are related to each other. (family)

      That form is here:



      But it won't work for your situation.

      It will not be a problem selling the 9MM to you.

      They don't check the registered owner out or even if the handgun has ever been registered. All they want is for the NEW OWNER (you) to get checked out (10 day wait) and they will register the 9MM to you.

      What the seller needs:

      A Drivers license or California ID.

      Nothing else.

      What the buyer (you) need:

      A Drivers license and a 2nd form of proof of residence, like a Car Registration that has your name and address on it that matches you drivers license.

      A HSC card. (you must have a handgun safety certificate) cost is $25 from a FFL. Simple test.

      $35 bucks for the FFL.

      Wait 10 days and go pick her up. At pick up you will do a gun safety check and be required to buy a gun lock. (make sure the magazines are 10 rounds or less; some of these older 9MMs had hi caps)

      Be safe. Have fun.
      May the Bridges I burn light the way.

      Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

      Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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      • #4
        Fritz265
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 1523

        Firearms dealers are required to process private party transfers upon request. Firearms dealers may charge a fee not to exceed $10 per firearm for conducting a private party transfer. Example:
        a.For a private party transfer involving one or more handguns, the total allowable fees, including the DROS, safety, and dealer transfer fees, are not to exceed $35.00 for the first handgun and $31.00 for each additional handgun involved in the same transaction.
        b.For private party transfers involving one or more long guns, or a private party transfer involving one handgun, the total allowable fees, including the DROS, safety, and dealer transfer fees, are not to exceed $35.00. The dealer may charge an additional dealer-service fee of$10.00 per each additional firearm transferred.
        "Those who fear your guns do so because they know they are guilty of things for which they should be shot"

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        • #5
          chile
          Junior Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 29

          Ok. Thanks guys. I don't need the HSC since my job allows me to carry off duty. Not my first handgun, just never bought a used one before. Only getting it to have something at home for the wife to use.

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          • #6
            DDM4
            Junior Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 65

            I was told that i can only buy 1 handgun per 30 days at Turners.
            Does that apply to a PPT at an FFL?

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            • #7
              BrokerB
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2010
              • 5345

              no..only new/used owned by the ffl guns are 10 day wait

              ppt- or consignment handguns you can buy all you want.. Im 99% sure
              Beans and Bullets

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              • #8
                ke6guj
                Moderator
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Nov 2003
                • 23725

                Originally posted by DDM4
                I was told that i can only buy 1 handgun per 30 days at Turners.
                Does that apply to a PPT at an FFL?
                27535. (a) No person shall make an application to purchase more
                than one handgun within any 30-day period
                .
                (b) Subdivision (a) shall not apply to any of the following:
                (1) Any law enforcement agency.
                (2) Any agency duly authorized to perform law enforcement duties.
                (3) Any state or local correctional facility.
                (4) Any private security company licensed to do business in
                California.
                (5) Any person who is properly identified as a full-time paid
                peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section
                830) of Title 3 of Part 2, and who is authorized to, and does carry a
                firearm during the course and scope of employment as a peace
                officer.
                (6) Any motion picture, television, or video production company or
                entertainment or theatrical company whose production by its nature
                involves the use of a firearm.
                (7) Any person who may, pursuant to Article 2 (commencing with
                Section 27600), Article 3 (commencing with Section 27650), or Article
                4 (commencing with Section 27700), claim an exemption from the
                waiting period set forth in Section 27540.
                (8) Any transaction conducted through a licensed firearms dealer
                pursuant to Chapter 5 (commencing with Section 28050).

                (9) Any person who is licensed as a collector pursuant to Chapter
                44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States
                Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto, and has a current
                certificate of eligibility issued by the Department of Justice
                pursuant to Article 1 (commencing with Section 26700) of Chapter 2.
                (10) The exchange of a handgun where the dealer purchased that
                firearm from the person seeking the exchange within the 30-day period
                immediately preceding the date of exchange or replacement.
                (11) The replacement of a handgun when the person's handgun was
                lost or stolen, and the person reported that firearm lost or stolen
                prior to the completion of the application to purchase to any local
                law enforcement agency of the city, county, or city and county in
                which the person resides.
                (12) The return of any handgun to its owner.
                (13) A community college that is certified by the Commission on
                Peace Officer Standards and Training to present the law enforcement
                academy basic course or other commission-certified law enforcement
                training.



                PPTs fall under 28050
                Jack



                Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                • #9
                  Fritz265
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 1523

                  Originally posted by DDM4
                  I was told that i can only buy 1 handgun per 30 days at Turners.
                  Does that apply to a PPT at an FFL?
                  Unlimited PPT handguns. Only FFL dealer purchases are one per 30 days.
                  "Those who fear your guns do so because they know they are guilty of things for which they should be shot"

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                  • #10
                    Ninety
                    Veteran Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 4062

                    Originally posted by BrokerB
                    no..only new/used owned by the ffl guns are 10 day wait

                    ppt- or consignment handguns you can buy all you want.. Im 99% sure
                    And no 10 day wait?
                    NRA Member
                    The Constitution does not bestow wisdom. It's up to the body politic to be wise. -Patriot
                    All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.
                    -Edmund Burke
                    I'd much rather go to my grave never needing my gun, than go there wishing I had it.
                    - Phil Dalmolin

                    The Battle of Athens was illegal too.

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                    • #11
                      AragornElessar86
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 1735

                      The law says for you to go through an FFL.
                      Wish I was rich instead of so damn good looking.
                      Originally posted by stix213
                      I'll worry about Hannibal Lecter having too many rights when the rest of us get ours in the first place.
                      Originally posted by Just Dave
                      Any American who isn't on a government watch list should be ashamed of themselves.

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                      • #12
                        Fritz265
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 1523

                        10-day wait for all firearm transfers in CA
                        "Those who fear your guns do so because they know they are guilty of things for which they should be shot"

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                        • #13
                          DDM4
                          Junior Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 65

                          Thanks. This is a great site!

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                          • #14
                            paul0660
                            In Memoriam
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 15669

                            Checked serial number and it comes back clean.
                            How did you check it?

                            my job allows me to carry off duty.
                            Really? What job?

                            Suspicious thread imo. The guy knows a lot but not much.
                            *REMOVE THIS PART BEFORE POSTING*

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                            • #15
                              edgerly779
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 19871

                              yES 10 DAY WAIT. ON ALL MODERN FIREARMS.

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