FFL's now refusing to take PPT's?

[jben]

I do apologize that our turning away PPTs has upset so many people, I do not have any control over it I just do what I'm told.

Reason why we're having to turn them away is that we are very heavily backlogged on many things, most of it being paperwork. The days I am working in there during the week, there is seemly never ending paperwork among other tedious activities that have had us working some late nights.

It is heartwarming to see so many people suggesting to throw us under the bus for this inconvenience, especially those who have not been inconvenienced personally.



Your insight and understanding is refreshing. This is some of the issues we face as well. Specific appointment times for PPTs is an idea we are working on.

-Kevin
Ade's Gun Shop

Just have to point it out again. Don't care how busy you are.
YOU ARE REQUIRED BY LAW TO DO IT.
So sorry to INCONVENIENCE YOU!!!

[Plisk]

Wondering... is there a lot of activity other than PPT's and a few dealer sales given the low inventory? Or should I start shopping at your store to find items in stock?

There haven't been very many PPT walk-ins, at least the days I work. Whatever we get in stock sells out very fast. We have a lot of inventory in DROS from store sales, and even more sitting in DROS from Out of State transfers. We're also buying from individuals at an increased rate which takes up a lot of inventory space since we have to hold them for 30 days until they can be DROS'd per Pawnbroker laws.

[stitchnicklas]

Warrior one in riverside was willing to do mine, but wanted to charge me $45 extra per gun to hold it because their back room was full. I told them politely to piss off.

sniff...sniffffff..... snifffffffffffffffffffffffff.....hmmm something does not smell right there.....

i know mike and norris...they do not fly like that.....


so i call b.s. on the 45 extra for a PPT unless it was a shipping gun receipt,which is a whole entirely different market. getting a shipped gun in is more work and hassle so you must pay more.

[NoHeavyHitter]

why keep a gun in inventory that wasnt sold by them for $50 ?

Maybe to comply with the law - since it's a legal condition of doing business?

[Grumpyoldretiredcop]

Just have to point it out again. Don't care how busy you are.
YOU ARE REQUIRED BY LAW TO DO IT.
So sorry to INCONVENIENCE YOU!!!

This. Don't want to do PPTs? Want to charge fees in violation of the PC? Don't whine when someone drops the dime on you, outs you here, and your customer base shrinks. Gun stores are here for our, the customer's, convenience, not us for yours. Wake up and smell the coffee, or join the ranks of the unemployed. Your choice, and we'll help you make it.

[Plisk]

Do you have a sense for the main reasons folks are selling? Is it just the usual of trying to make a quick profit?

Essentially yes, trying to capitalize on the current market and/or consolidate their inventory to get some of the more in demand products.

[FF/EMT Nick]

The DOJ website clearly states that no FFL may refuse or limit the times that PPT's are preformed, nor can they charge in excess of $35, per California PC! Period! End of sentence! End of paragraph!

[stitchnicklas]

also for the warrior 1 basher...

they are one of the rare non-gouge shops out there
they post stock updates on their facebook
they got 25 striped lowers in the other day and the selfish fools sold them all....for $129 each....yeah .,...they are so bad.....
10 min ppt's and all...

[mabilis_matulis]

The DOJ website clearly states that no FFL may refuse or limit the times that PPT's are preformed, nor can they charge in excess of $35, per California PC! Period! End of sentence! End of paragraph!

+1

[bkk6869]

also for the warrior 1 basher...

they are one of the rare non-gouge shops out there
they post stock updates on their facebook
they got 25 striped lowers in the other day and the selfish fools sold them all....for $129 each....yeah .,...they are so bad.....
10 min ppt's and all...

i have no reason to argue with you. i'd used them for several other ppt's. i went in yesterday with a gentleman who was trading two of his guns for my AR. I had a pistol and a .22lr AR going my way, and my AR going his way. we were told the normal fee plus an extra $45 per gun just for the AR's because there were so many AR's in the back and they were out of room. don't believe me, call them and say you need to transfer some AR's. don't care what i say, don't call. it doesn't matter much to me. i took my business down the freewat to bullseye and got my stuff taken care of.

[Cal-Guns]

This will be my only post.

I am the nephew that was politely turned away with polite explanation from Ade's on a recent PPT request. I bear no ill will toward Ade's who remains a local dealer with a fantastic reputation for customer service.

Let's get a few things straight. A PPT is nothing more than a kindness performed by an FFL. Performing a PPT costs a private business time and resources compensated for by neither the government nor the customers. Ten bucks. Does not cover the cost of doing the job. And who are we to tell a private business what type of business they are required to perform-- at a loss? The majority of this thread sound like the cranky bear that just got their Cheetos revoked. I would suggest that before the angry mob here tars-and-feathers a great little business, that they rethink their positions. Because at the rate we're going, sooner than later, the Gov will be making you all work for free as well.

LMTluvr: You either are, or you are not. Ade's is not.

jben: No need to scream. You have not been inconvenienced. And neither was I. Army/Navy was 2 minutes away.

russt, bohoki, canopis: Shame on you for advocating the "turning in of" a great local business!

Grumpyoldretiredcop: You've never owned a business. Your ignorance is profound.

Ade's: you rock.

Respect goes both ways. If a business does not offer the services you need, respectfully go somewhere else. But don't badmouth them for not giving you free stuff. That's what liberals do.

[BigJ]

Cal-Guns: you seem to be ignoring the fact their performing a PPT is a legal requirement, not a courtesy. It is a cost of doing business, plain and simple.

[tcrpe]

Cal-Guns: you seem to be ignoring the fact their performing a PPT is a legal requirement, not a courtesy. It is a cost of doing business, plain and simple.

Yep, it is a legal obligation.

[ChrisBrooklyn]

So yeah, report them, throw them under the bus, foul over a decent gun shop.

I think the long term history is more important than a short term issue. Not saying that they should refuse PPT's, but maybe given this crazy time, there are reasons.

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if they dont do ppt's they are not a decent gun shop, they are criminals who should be put out of business, plain and simple.. if i break the law i risk my dros being denied, they freely admit to breaking the law and as such have no place in the firearms business

[Raider888]

This will be my only post.

I am the nephew that was politely turned away with polite explanation from Ade's on a recent PPT request. I bear no ill will toward Ade's who remains a local dealer with a fantastic reputation for customer service.

Let's get a few things straight. A PPT is nothing more than a kindness performed by an FFL. Performing a PPT costs a private business time and resources compensated for by neither the government nor the customers. Ten bucks. Does not cover the cost of doing the job. And who are we to tell a private business what type of business they are required to perform-- at a loss? The majority of this thread sound like the cranky bear that just got their Cheetos revoked. I would suggest that before the angry mob here tars-and-feathers a great little business, that they rethink their positions. Because at the rate we're going, sooner than later, the Gov will be making you all work for free as well.

LMTluvr: You either are, or you are not. Ade's is not.

jben: No need to scream. You have not been inconvenienced. And neither was I. Army/Navy was 2 minutes away.

russt, bohoki, canopis: Shame on you for advocating the "turning in of" a great local business!

Grumpyoldretiredcop: You've never owned a business. Your ignorance is profound.

Ade's: you rock.

Respect goes both ways. If a business does not offer the services you need, respectfully go somewhere else. But don't badmouth them for not giving you free stuff. That's what liberals do.

I Call BS on this. Everyone has the right to express their view.