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  • AlbcAlbrr
    Senior Member
    • May 2008
    • 637

    FFL's now refusing to take PPT's?

    I sent my nephew over to Ade's in Orange to do a PPT sale. When he and the buyer walked in they were told that Ade's no longer does PPT transactions. Go down the street to the Army/Navy store.

    The Army/Navy store did the PPT for them. But the guy behind the counter asked how many other places had turned them away. He said "lots" of places are turning the PPT's away.

    I didn't think they could do that? Is this something new?

    Anybody else having a problem?
  • #2
    keenkeen
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2011
    • 6782

    Nothing new...
    "But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little and who talk too much." -John Dryden

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    • #3
      LMTluvr
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 1348

      Start reporting these folks to DOJ. Being an as*****. Can go both ways.
      Slayer of abalone and lingcod.

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      • #4
        littlebear44
        Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 245

        Ade's did my ppt in januarary, what the h*ll happened???!!!! Now I gotta go to fowlers?!

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        • #5
          orangeusa
          • Jul 2009
          • 9055

          OMG Fowlers has 10x MORE complaints about not doing PPT's. They openly say they will not do them on Saturdays.

          Turners will do them 7 days a week. Not a HUGE fan of Turners, but they will do them, if you wait in line... But heck... This is FRIDAY.

          I do business with Ades, never had this issue. I'm kinda hoping this was a mis-communication. But I doubt it. Ade's is (or was) THE gunstore in Orange.

          .

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          • #6
            bkk6869
            Member
            • Oct 2012
            • 453

            Warrior one in riverside was willing to do mine, but wanted to charge me $45 extra per gun to hold it because their back room was full. I told them politely to piss off.
            I don't own any guns...they're dangerous.

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            • #7
              russt
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 1039

              Law says the have to do them. Report them!

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              • #8
                bohoki
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 20826

                yea report them

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                • #9
                  keenkeen
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2011
                  • 6782

                  Reporting is fine...but guess what?

                  The DOJ will do nothing about it.

                  Report away but there is no enforcement.
                  "But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little and who talk too much." -John Dryden

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                  • #10
                    BigJ
                    Veteran Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 3172

                    Originally posted by keenkeen
                    Reporting is fine...but guess what?

                    The DOJ will do nothing about it.

                    Report away but there is no enforcement.
                    Are these types of complaints logged? Would that log show up when it comes time to renew their license?
                    "This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave." - Elmer Davis

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                    • #11
                      russt
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 1039

                      Then refuse to do business there and urge people to do the same. If a business doesn't care about ALL customers then go elsewhere.

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                      • #12
                        Atlantaboi2012
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 581

                        Probably because it ties up the sales folks from store gun sales. For them to do a PPT is kinda like them doing a favor to the customer. Nowadays with sales being the way they are, some places dont have enough room in their safes for an out of store transaction... why keep a gun in inventory that wasnt sold by them for $50 ? Most places in SD dont mind but they will make you wait until they are done with other customers first or set up specific times and days to come in and do it.

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                        • #13
                          Rambo, John J.
                          Member
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 256

                          I went last Saturday to do a PPT at Insight Shooting Range in Artesia which the other party had chosen. Insight said that PPT's will be done only by appointment, not on weekends but on Thursday only. They said that they had done a lot of PPT's so it looks like they got tired of it. If it's the law that they have to do a PPT, then technically they are complying but making it real difficult by only doing it one day out of the week on Thursday.

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                          • #14
                            Plisk
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 3007

                            I do apologize that our turning away PPTs has upset so many people, I do not have any control over it I just do what I'm told.

                            Reason why we're having to turn them away is that we are very heavily backlogged on many things, most of it being paperwork. The days I am working in there during the week, there is seemly never ending paperwork among other tedious activities that have had us working some late nights.

                            It is heartwarming to see so many people suggesting to throw us under the bus for this inconvenience, especially those who have not been inconvenienced personally.

                            Originally posted by Atlantaboi2012
                            Probably because it ties up the sales folks from store gun sales. For them to do a PPT is kinda like them doing a favor to the customer. Nowadays with sales being the way they are, some places dont have enough room in their safes for an out of store transaction... why keep a gun in inventory that wasnt sold by them for $50 ? Most places in SD dont mind but they will make you wait until they are done with other customers first or set up specific times and days to come in and do it.
                            Your insight and understanding is refreshing. This is some of the issues we face as well. Specific appointment times for PPTs is an idea we are working on.

                            -Kevin
                            Ade's Gun Shop
                            Last edited by Plisk; 02-22-2013, 7:57 PM.
                            "If it wears out, replace it. If it breaks, upgrade." -Cranky Air Force Vet.

                            Kevin

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                            • #15
                              keenkeen
                              Calguns Addict
                              • May 2011
                              • 6782

                              Originally posted by Plisk
                              I do apologize that our turning away PPTs has upset so many people, I do not have any control over it I just do what I'm told.

                              Reason why we're having to turn them away is that we are very heavily backlogged on many things, most of it being paperwork. The days I am working in there during the week, there is seemly never ending paperwork among other tedious activities that have had us working some late nights.

                              It is heartwarming to see so many people suggesting to throw us under the bus for this inconvenience, especially those who have not been inconvenienced personally.



                              Your insight and understanding is refreshing. This is some of the issues we face as well. Specific appointment times for PPTs is an idea we are working on.

                              -Kevin
                              Ade's Gun Shop
                              Is there a timeline for getting caught up and to start doing PPTs again?

                              It is great that you shared the details of the issue and hopefully people will be understanding to those points...but in the end the people showing up for a PPT are just trying to follow the law.

                              They are not any more excited about it than the FFL is.

                              Hopefully it will be back on track soon.
                              "But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little and who talk too much." -John Dryden

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