What do you guys use for protection when camping

[bill_k_lopez]

You asked for an example, he gave you one. Instead of thanking him, you launch into a sarcastic tirade?

You lost that round, Bill.

We were talking about the threats out there when camping.

Fighting over a parking space has nothing to do with camping - pointing that out isn't a sarcastic tirade - realizing that it is not a threat while camping is common sense.

Telling me that "I lost that round" because of that is ridiculous.

[njineermike]

Yep - you got me, measured it all up from the total sum of three posts that lead to your intimate knowledge of me.

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Any smart real camper will understand the need for self defense especially in present day.

Mountain Lion? (Cougar, Puma, Panther)

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/wildlife/lion/attacks.html

15 verified attacks on people in California SINCE 1890, yeah 15 attacks in 123 years - I'm really scared of a ML attack while camping.

Bears?

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/news/issues/bear/bear_incidents.html

12 attacks since 1980 no deaths most involved people who had food on them (backpacks) or left food out. 12 attacks in 33 years - not too worried about those statistics either - and bear spray is a lot cheaper and lighter to carry.

What else are you afraid of?

While odds of a violent predator entering your house and raping.your children is unlikely, I bet you lock your doors anyway.

[bill_k_lopez]

This guy comes to mind, some kids went camping in the desert near Mojave.





No more feeding now . . . . .

Facts are facts....

Again - nothing to do with camping...do any of you bother to read the articles or just the headlines??

Lance Buflo, Soto's husband and the lone survivor of the shooting, testified at Murtishaw's 1979 trial that he and fellow students were making a film in the Mojave Desert in Kern County when Murtishaw and another man asked them for a ride after their car had broken down.

The group told the men that they could have a ride when they were finished filming in the late afternoon sunlight. The men walked away but later returned.

Without warning, Murtishaw opened fire on the group with a rifle.

[tcrpe]

Keep digging,

Facts are facts....

Again - nothing to do with camping...do any of you bother to read the articles or just the headlines??

Lance Buflo, Soto's husband and the lone survivor of the shooting, testified at Murtishaw's 1979 trial that he and fellow students were making a film in the Mojave Desert in Kern County when Murtishaw and another man asked them for a ride after their car had broken down.

The group told the men that they could have a ride when they were finished filming in the late afternoon sunlight. The men walked away but later returned.

Without warning, Murtishaw opened fire on the group with a rifle.

[bill_k_lopez]

While odds of a violent predator entering your house and raping.your children is unlikely, I bet you lock your doors anyway.

Most people who don't live in the city don't.

My family that lives in upstate NY never does, neither do most (if not all) of their neighbors, the idea is ridiculous to them that you would ever need to do that.

[bill_k_lopez]

Keep digging,

Where is the word camping mentioned once... just show it to me and I'll concede.

You can't. it must be difficult to live in your reality - are you always right or is it that everyone else is always wrong?

[njineermike]

Most people who don't live in the city don't.

My family that lives in upstate NY never does, neither do most (if not all) of their neighbors, the idea is ridiculous to them that you would ever need to do that.

But you do lock your doors.

[bill_k_lopez]

But you do lock your doors.

And we're talking about the need for personal protection while being 10 miles out and camping.

I wear a bathing suit when I use my pool, but not when I'm taking a bath.

I live in a city with half a million people in it, surrounded by cities with that much or more. There is a need to lock your doors and to have personal protection here.

When I'm out camping, let say at Cathedral Lake, who should I be worried about encountering?

[tcrpe]

Where is the word camping mentioned once... just show it to me and I'll concede.

You can't. it must be difficult to live in your reality - are you always right or is it that everyone else is always wrong?

Sure,

Now you argue semantics, having spun, crashed, and burned on logic. Keep moving the goalposts.

You asked for examples, they were given to you.

You lacked the grace to say, "Thank you."

That is not something we can help you with.




Carry on, bill-k-lopez, there is a convention somewhere looking or a keynote speaker.

[thomashoward]

And we're talking about the need for personal protection while being 10 miles out and camping.
who should I be worried about encountering?

I keep it simple. I carry a Redhawk .44 in a shoulder holster. I'm hunting.
Don't worry be happy, and mindful of varmints both 2 legged and 4 legged..Some people on the fringe of sanity and people hiding out from the law. Dope growers,meth cookers, Bears,Mt. Lions,Coyotes etc. And because other people do.
maybe I'm just serious about survival of my kids,Grandkids, wife and anyone in range who is encountering a life threatening situation. .
I don't have a V on my forehead. V=Victim

[njineermike]

And we're talking about the need for personal protection while being 10 miles out and camping.

I wear a bathing suit when I use my pool, but not when I'm taking a bath.

I live in a city with half a million people in it, surrounded by cities with that much or more. There is a need to lock your doors and to have personal protection here.

When I'm out camping, let say at Cathedral Lake, who should I be worried about encountering?

You percieve a credible threat, no matter how slim, so you take action to mitigate the threat, but ridicule others who do the same in a different circumstance, because you don't percieve the threat. Got it. In your opinion, you're better than them because you're somehow smarter or better informed....

Now I'm just trying to decide if you're stupid, a common troll, an anti in disguise (since that same "I get protection but you don't" mantra is a common theme), or, as was mentioned, just a dick.

Or whatever combination of the former fits.

[xrMike]

Heheheh, yeah, you either get it or you don't.

[joemama]

Yep - you got me, measured it all up from the total sum of three posts that lead to your intimate knowledge of me.

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Any smart real camper will understand the need for self defense especially in present day.

Mountain Lion? (Cougar, Puma, Panther)

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/wildlife/lion/attacks.html

15 verified attacks on people in California SINCE 1890, yeah 15 attacks in 123 years - I'm really scared of a ML attack while camping.

Bears?

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/news/issues/bear/bear_incidents.html

12 attacks since 1980 no deaths most involved people who had food on them (backpacks) or left food out. 12 attacks in 33 years - not too worried about those statistics either - and bear spray is a lot cheaper and lighter to carry.

What else are you afraid of?

Humans.

http://www.ifish.net/board/showthread.php?t=148441

read through that thread and tell me you dont want to carry a gun in the woods still. Animals can typically be scared off with some noise. Humans with ill intent however are typically not dissuaded by you jumping up and down with your arms in the air. There are all kinds of people off in the woods that you dont want to meet without being armed.


And before you equate what I just said to not having anything to do with camping, a lot of those stories involved camping.

[m98]

But you do lock your doors.

shhhhhhhh............don't feed it too much 'Real' facts or 'logic'......it will cause extreme anger...we'll just back off.........I'm sure 90% of campers that does some type of 'real' camping is packing heat. I say this becuz most of the campers I've come across are carrying and quite a few are carrying the blackrifle flavor. He just wants to blend into the 'camping' scene bcuz all he's ever done is paid campgrounds........Try the real type of camping instead........I managed to get my sister to try real camping instead of their usual 'sheeple camping expeditions' off the highway on paid campgrounds. She says yeah, it's hard work but very exciting....much more fun. And so far, we've already gone 3 trips together.

[Shasta Frog]

Sounds like Bill is so tough the wilderness is scared of him. What a tool