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  • #16
    zatoh
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Oct 2005
    • 844

    Or at least get a small one and conceal it. I thought i lived in a "safe" area but we had a break-in in June. My stomach dropped when I checked the house out but I felt relief when I saw that my stuff in the Safes was secure.
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    • #17
      NoHeavyHitter
      Banned
      • Jul 2011
      • 2876

      Get a safe - it's worth it just to feel more certain that your firearms are safe in your absence.

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      • #18
        Ron-Solo
        In Memoriam
        • Jan 2009
        • 8581

        Originally posted by SilverTauron
        I don't think the answer is that clear cut for the OP.

        Here's why. A safe by itself is essentially a metal box with a locked door on it. Unless its bolted down to the structure of the home, all the bad guys need do is bring a dolly and wheel it out the door.

        Bolting it down helps, but the OP's setup means the only place he can keep it is in the garage . Assuming his foundation can even be drilled into-certain ones have tensioned cables which prevent this-the fact that its located in the garage poses problems. Think a big truck with a giant chain kind of problems. Without an enclosed closet space to prevent use of saws/tools ,a garage located safe strikes me as vulnerability posing as security.

        IMO, the OP should invest in security through obscurity.Get an alarm and take responsible steps to ensure firearms are not littered about the house in plain sight.
        While it is entirely possible that a sofisticated thief could breach a safe, or drag it away with a tow truck, the reality is that most residential burglaries are committed by teens and tweekers, all looking for stuff they can quickly convert to cash or drugs. Guns bring good money on the street.

        In addition to quality safes, I have a quality alarm system to back it up.
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        • #19
          Ninety
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2012
          • 4062

          boobietrap your closet and put them in there . My friend today was along the same lines as the previous posters... own a gun? Buy a safe.. My thing is.. are those bedside safes the elctro ones that i don't mind bolting to my nite stand... really safe from theft? NO talk about wheeling out a whole safe.. i could carry out my nite stand with the gunvault attatched... if you are questioning whether or not to buy one.. i think you already know the answer.. just looking for some support in the expenditure
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          • #20
            Bobby Ricigliano
            Mit Gott und Mauser
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2011
            • 17439

            Originally posted by Ron-Solo
            the reality is that most residential burglaries are committed by teens and tweekers, all looking for stuff they can quickly convert to cash or drugs. .
            Yep. It's funny how all the outlandish, sophisticated theories exist when the above is true the vast majority of the time.

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            • #21
              myk
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2012
              • 5955

              Nothing new here, yes, please get a safe...


              I don't always save the world, but when I do, it's in 24 hours or less...

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              • #22
                Ron-Solo
                In Memoriam
                • Jan 2009
                • 8581

                Originally posted by Ninety
                boobietrap your closet and put them in there . My friend today was along the same lines as the previous posters... own a gun? Buy a safe.. My thing is.. are those bedside safes the elctro ones that i don't mind bolting to my nite stand... really safe from theft? NO talk about wheeling out a whole safe.. i could carry out my nite stand with the gunvault attatched... if you are questioning whether or not to buy one.. i think you already know the answer.. just looking for some support in the expenditure
                Yeah, boobietraps are illegal, and in many cases a felony.

                A lock box that you bolt to a nightstand isn't a safe. It is designed to keep kids from accessing your gun, not to secure it from theft.

                We are talking about a real safe, not even a stack on gun cabinet.

                It took four men to put my gun safe in place when it was empty. Then we bolted it down into the concrete really well, and filled it up. It would take some serious lifting power to move it now. My alarm will have gone off and will be howling in their ears while they figure out their next step before the police arrive.
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                • #23
                  voiceofreason
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 3785

                  At the very least, get a gun cabinet and weigh down the inside with heavy material. Yes, they can dolly it away, but the point is not to make it impossible, but difficult.

                  At least it will stop smash and grab burglars.

                  A safe would be best, but not everyone has the budget/location for one (upstairs rentals).

                  You can get the pistol safe boxes at Turners for $40 sometimes.
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                  • #24
                    Supertac916
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 2423

                    I'd offer for you to keep your guns in my safe, but it's full and I need another one

                    Safes are good for multiple reasons and not just keeping thieves away from guns. You could store all important documents and other valuables. Bolt it to your garage door and hook up a motion sensor in there. These days you could deactivate the alarm remotely as your opening the garage. It'll also keep your valuables safe from fire for a few hours in the event of an earthquake and fires.

                    Buy a quality safe though

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                    • #25
                      uhlan1
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 6217

                      Yea, the overwhelming number of burglars are snatch and grab losers. They're in and they're out. Have it sold for meth just as quickly. A safe will stop 99.99 of them especially if bolted to the floor. Imo, your safe gets broken into or stolen it's someone you know. Show and tell no one.
                      Oh, and they're scared ****less of large breed working line dogs like German Shepherds. Get one of those and a safe and they'll hit your neighbors instead fo' sure (no offense to your neighbors).
                      "Hence it happened that all the armed prophets conquered, all the unarmed perished." - Niccolo Machiavelli

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                      • #26
                        BrokerB
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 5338

                        " my neighborhood is safe" ...always makes me laugh. You think dirt bags only steal from the poor ghetto ?

                        Safe is a must . Bolt it to your wood wall frame /studs or to concrete is also a must, if not its just a nice to go box .
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                        • #27
                          liberty47
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 1566

                          Buy a safe

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                          • #28
                            Mr. Beretta
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 6614

                            Originally posted by Diesel-Gunner
                            #1- Get a safe
                            #2- Refer to rule #1


                            +100

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                            • #29
                              delta9
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 1690

                              Ok - you guys talked me into it!
                              Going to order a safe next week. I saw this one at Lowes http://tinyurl.com/c7bc7cg

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                              • #30
                                Sennasixty8
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 562

                                The challenge is to find a safe large enough to grow 'into' and still fit within the San Francisco sized 'home' foot print.

                                The doors and stairs leading into your beloved home need to be measured and then measured again.. (been there done that).
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