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  • sd_shooter
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Dec 2008
    • 14255

    Bought a magazine that holds 11 rounds

    So I bought a generic polymer 7.62x39 "10 round" magazine at a gun show. It was fully assembled, just picked it from a mountain of magazines laying on a table. When I got home, it turned out to be capable of holding 11 rounds (it's a little tight.)

    Any problem with repairing it with parts from a 30-rd kit?

    Edit: This is not a converted 10/20 PMAG or anything of the kind. There are no rivets, glue, blocks, plastic strips.
    Last edited by sd_shooter; 11-05-2012, 1:48 PM.
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    dieselpower
    Banned
    • Jan 2009
    • 11471

    its a 10 round magazine that holds 11 rounds.... there is nothing to repair.

    1) its not designed to hold 11
    2) you didnt make a 11 round magazine
    3) you didnt buy a 11 round magazine
    4) no one sold you a 11 round magazine
    5) its not illegal to own a 10 rd magazine that can be FORCED to hold an 11th round
    6) even if an LEO was so freaking desperate for brownie points that they wasted 5 minutes on this...no one else would.

    just let it be.... oh and stop telling the whole world what the color of your poop is... its better left unsaid...
    Last edited by dieselpower; 11-01-2012, 10:42 AM.

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    • #3
      Capybara
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      • Feb 2012
      • 15576

      I have a couple of old mags for my Ruger P95. Just for kicks, I tried loading them and they all held 11 rounds. Bought in the 90s but I didn't even know they held 11 rounds. Not advocating breaking the law, but the way the law is written, it is basically unenforceable, that's what makes it a stupid law.
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      • #4
        newbee1111
        Senior Member
        • May 2011
        • 536

        I don't think there is anything illegal about buying a 10 round magazine that can actually have 11 rounds stuffed into it. You didn't intended to buy a large capacity so there is no conspiracy with the seller. They aren't illegal to posses.

        What you could get busted for is using that in a rifle with a bullet button. The AWB exemption for rifle with a non-removable magazine doesn't apply to magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.
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        • #5
          Exodus343
          Veteran Member
          • Jun 2012
          • 4735

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          • #6
            Ribkick
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2012
            • 702

            Load it with 11 and then try to insert it in your weapon. You're welcome.
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            • #7
              morfeeis
              Calguns Addict
              • Apr 2010
              • 7605

              Originally posted by Capybara
              I have a couple of old mags for my Ruger P95. Just for kicks, I tried loading them and they all held 11 rounds. Bought in the 90s but I didn't even know they held 11 rounds. Not advocating breaking the law, but the way the law is written, it is basically unenforceable, that's what makes it a stupid law.
              Must be a Ruger things, i have two mags for my SR9 that will hold 11 also.

              As for the Op's question of rebuilding them now that they are 10+. I asked that question when i found out that my Mags held more than 10, the answer i received from those in the know was, NO! I was all set to buy a rebuild kit to rebuild my 10+ magazine but they said it would almost constitute conspiracy. Don't know why, i never even asked, i just left it at that.
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              • #8
                morfeeis
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2010
                • 7605

                Originally posted by Ribkick
                Load it with 11 and then try to insert it in your weapon. You're welcome.
                mine chambered just fine with 11.
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                • #9
                  vintagearms
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 6841

                  It was designed for 10 rounds. It may jam if you make it hold 11. This is one of those rare occasions I wouldnt worry too much about it, bit would only load it to 10 rounds.

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                  • #10
                    Panchira!
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 1142

                    I have had this too. For my ar mags. Ordered 3 from one store, bought 3 from riflegear same manufacture on both for the mags. The ones from riflegear for 11 easy and almost 12. Could not for the life of me figure why the ones from riflegear hold that many whole the ones I ordered online held exactly 10. Upon further inspection they (online company) put a digit about 1/4" from the bottom, riflegear a nothing!

                    I put in the rivet in the other 3 and bam exactly 10! In my eyes regardless if you buy a 10 round mag it should only hold 10. Is it worth the risk? Will a LEO care? Who knows? But do as you like. Trust me though I hate these lame 10 cap mag laws
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                    • #11
                      emsalex
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 550

                      I love the amount of people who did not reap the OP.

                      I do not see how buying a mag that turned out to be a CA " high cap " can be conspiracy.
                      If he went back to buy a truck load knowing what he knows now I can see it then.

                      Off to find where Morfeeis asked this question.
                      Originally posted by rickey65
                      No money is fine but perhaps he may learn how fast he will forget not to engage in fraudulent activities with good people.

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                      • #12
                        Ribkick
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 702

                        Originally posted by morfeeis
                        mine chambered just fine with 11.
                        Good for you. If you read the OP's post, he says it was tight. That would leave no room for bumping up against slide or bolt. Not having gun in hand, it's hard to argue either way.
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                        • #13
                          babe
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 641

                          Well against the law is against the law. I would hate to be you if you ever got into the crosshairs of the police for another reason. You'd be one of those ridiculous news stories....polcie storm wrong house by mistake, but arrest occupant on weapons violations...he possessed semiautomatic weapons with high capacity magazines!!!! OMG!!!!!

                          The law is 'capacity to accept more than 10 rounds'. Be it 11 or 20 or 100 round drum...illegal is illegal.

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                          • #14
                            sd_shooter
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 14255

                            Originally posted by babe
                            Well against the law is against the law. I would hate to be you if you ever got into the crosshairs of the police for another reason. You'd be one of those ridiculous news stories....polcie storm wrong house by mistake, but arrest occupant on weapons violations...he possessed semiautomatic weapons with high capacity magazines!!!! OMG!!!!!

                            The law is 'capacity to accept more than 10 rounds'. Be it 11 or 20 or 100 round drum...illegal is illegal.
                            That's my point. It's not illegal. (except in a BB gun...)

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                            • #15
                              emsalex
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 550

                              Originally posted by babe
                              Well against the law is against the law. I would hate to be you if you ever got into the crosshairs of the police for another reason. You'd be one of those ridiculous news stories....polcie storm wrong house by mistake, but arrest occupant on weapons violations...he possessed semiautomatic weapons with high capacity magazines!!!! OMG!!!!!

                              The law is 'capacity to accept more than 10 rounds'. Be it 11 or 20 or 100 round drum...illegal is illegal.
                              Be it 11 or 20 or 1500 round belt.... Legal is legal.

                              If I made a 10/30 mag that I could fit an 11th round in I would have made an 11 round magazine. Same as the one the OP bought legally. I feel if the op posted he made a ten round mag that can accept 11 rounds every one would agree he manufactured a high cap magazine. How is it any different than this gun show magazine. He was sold a magazine That can hold hold 11 rounds of the ammo it was made to be used with( trying to avoid a 9mm in a 40sw mag threadjack). That what CA calls a high cap magazine. He bought it legally, there is no conspiracy to commit here.

                              Why can't he rebuild his legally obtained high cap magazine?
                              Originally posted by rickey65
                              No money is fine but perhaps he may learn how fast he will forget not to engage in fraudulent activities with good people.

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