SB249 discouraging from buying

[jdsmilez]

As much as I have wanted to buy some sort of AR for the past 6 months (doing some research, saving money, etc.) I have become discouraged because of SB249 and thinking I should go with a handgun instead. Shot a .40 USP a couple weeks ago and loved it but not sure if I want to spend my saved cash on the pistol just because I am discouraged by a law that has only been proposed so far! Should I just go ahead and keep searching for a rifle (then spending extra money if the BS law passes) or should I wait until the dust settle?

[tiechshlime]

It's discouraging, my lower gets outa jail on saturday and ordering another one!

[doug-y-doug]

I would buy the AR first for sure. If it passes, one of two likely outcomes will occur. (1) You go featureless: buy an inexpensive kydex grip that fits over the rifle's pistol grip and remove the flash hider. (2) They reopen the assault weapon registry. You register it and you're good to go.

If you wait until it's too late, you might miss out on your chance to own one for a long time. I read something about Senator Yee saying that we'd need to have the mag release button welded over or the magazine welded on. Nonsense. Ain't gonna happen. INAL, but it sounds pretty sketchy to me. At a minimum, it's logistically and politically difficult, if not impossible.

[Mr Wizard]

Welcome to Calguns.
Buy the rifletomorrow and while you are waiting for it to get out of jail, blow up (figuratively speaking) your legislators phones and emails demanding they oppose SB249.
Like dougydoug said, you can always go featureless if necessary.

These tools in Sacramento screwed up the first time when they tried to ban sport rifles by name and the OLL was born. You can bet they will screw it up again. They're not that intelligent.

[dmcmillenfv]

I'm refinishing a pistol to sell, then I'm getting 4 more lowers. My days are numbered in this state anyways, I can't take it anymore!

[jdsmilez]

Thanks for the feedback guns! On another note I have a responsible friend that is willing to keep the AR at his house and under his name until I move out of my house in a year or so (got some antigun people here). If I give him the money to get it am I held reliable for anything?

[CitaDeL]

Thanks for the feedback guns! On another note I have a responsible friend that is willing to keep the AR at his house and under his name until I move out of my house in a year or so (got some antigun people here). If I give him the money to get it am I held reliable for anything?

Sounds like a straw buy.

Look, if you are letting a little legislation inhibit your desire to purchase something that is legal now, will you have any skin in the game if they are banned in the future?

I think that we ought to buy the things we want when we are able in spite of Yee and Keigwin's desires. In the event anti-gunners do try to take them, you are now a vested member of the oppressed. You have something to fight for.

[sharxbyte]

Buy an AR and join the fight!

[acolytes]

Buy the rifle. IF the law passes, turn it into a featureless..

[jdsmilez]

Technically it wouldn't be a straw buy would it because it is going to be his and I will eventually transfer it to my name when I move out? I am really thinking about going for it AR already!

[SJgunguy24]

Technically it wouldn't be a straw buy would it because it is going to be his and I will eventually transfer it to my name when I move out? I am really thinking about going for it AR already!

Technically it may not be a straw purchase (assuming you can own a firearm) but on the 4473 it says are you buying the firearm for yourself. So your buddy will be committing perjury.
Please stop posting about anything that can be used against you.

[doug-y-doug]

Please stop posting about anything that can be used against you.

Take it easy. He's on the forum to ask legitimate questions. If he knew the law, he wouldn't be asking.

[jdsmilez]

Thanks Doug! And it wouldn't go against me since if would be considered an illegal straw purchase I wouldn't buy it that simple. I can LEGALLY own a gun and so can he and it would stay at HIS house. Only time that wouldn't be true would be when I would take it to the range usually with him also!

[davek8s]

Sweet! Another straw purchase debate!

[doug-y-doug]

I don't know the law, but I would err on the side of caution. A better option might be to buy a stripped lower for now. If you're not familiar, that's the part of the gun the law considers a "gun" for transfer purposes. It's basically an unassuming piece of metal that wouldn't bother any anti-gun people in your house. They wouldn't even know what it is.

If you go this route, you won't have to worry about any unexpected DOJ interpretations of SB249, assuming it passes. A lot of things could happen. INAL, but it seems like SB249 leaves room for bans on featureless weapons as well, and if this happens, you won't have to deal with prohibitions on transferring the weapon back into your name. They might even reopen the registry, in which case you'd be good to go. During the time you're living with anti-gun folks, you can learn more about the platform and figure out what parts you want to buy for your new rifle. It will also give you time to save up for a nice optic and plenty of ammo.