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  • #16
    Scratch705
    I need a LIFE!!
    • May 2009
    • 12537

    or just buy it yourself, and just keep it at your buddy's house. you don't have to make him buy it just to keep it at his house. especially if he has a gun safe.
    Originally posted by leelaw
    Because -ohmigosh- they can add their opinions, too?
    Originally posted by SoCalSig1911
    Preppers canceled my order this afternoon because I called them a disgrace... Not ordering from those clowns again.
    Originally posted by PrepperGunShop
    Truthfully, we cancelled your order because of your lack of civility and your threats ... What is a problem is when you threaten my customer service team and make demands instead of being civil. Plain and simple just don't be an a**hole (where you told us to shove it).

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    • #17
      Arkangel
      Veteran Member
      • May 2010
      • 4458

      Buy all the AR's you want, don't let those beatnecks discourage you, my next lower gets out next Tuesday and I'm working on my pistol AR.
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      (ಠ_ృ) riveting tale, chap.

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      • #18
        CSACANNONEER
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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        • Dec 2006
        • 44094

        If anything, you should be buying EXTRA OLLs. Featureless rifles are so much easier to deal with than mag locked ones. Besides, you can use +10 round mags in them and really piss Yee off.
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        • #19
          SilverTauron
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2012
          • 5699

          Originally posted by jdsmilez
          As much as I have wanted to buy some sort of AR for the past 6 months (doing some research, saving money, etc.) I have become discouraged because of SB249 and thinking I should go with a handgun instead. Shot a .40 USP a couple weeks ago and loved it but not sure if I want to spend my saved cash on the pistol just because I am discouraged by a law that has only been proposed so far! Should I just go ahead and keep searching for a rifle (then spending extra money if the BS law passes) or should I wait until the dust settle?
          Buy the AR15 now. As far as case precedent is concerned, the California government cannot ban guns in common use, such as an AR pattern rifle. Problem is legally forcing the CA government to abide by that case history is going to take time. Life might be uncomfortable for a few years, but once the case is decided in your favor-court precedent being what it is now-you'll be glad you bought your AR15 before the prices went up.
          The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.
          The more subsidies you have, the less self reliant people will be.
          -Lao-Tzu, Tau Te Ching. 479 BCE

          The 1911 may have been in wars for 100 years, but Masetro Bartolomeo Beretta was arming the world 400 years before John Browning was ever a wet dream.

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          • #20
            SJgunguy24
            I need a LIFE!!
            • May 2008
            • 14849

            Originally posted by jdsmilez
            Thanks Doug! And it wouldn't go against me since if would be considered an illegal straw purchase I wouldn't buy it that simple. I can LEGALLY own a gun and so can he and it would stay at HIS house. Only time that wouldn't be true would be when I would take it to the range usually with him also!
            Originally posted by Scratch705
            or just buy it yourself, and just keep it at your buddy's house. you don't have to make him buy it just to keep it at his house. especially if he has a gun safe.
            If your gun stays at your buddys (or in his possession) for more then 30 days, your supposed to transfer that firearm via a CA FFL. That means DROS and the 10 day wait. Then when you want it back, he would have to transfer via ffl back to you, DROS and the 10 day wait again. This is of course if you follow the law.
            I understand new members tend to jump the gun a bit with their ideas, but some of the talk in this thread could be a gray area if not outright illegal.
            Please don't take this as a put down in any way. Just get into the penal code and really read through everything and maybe look up some case law. Take this from a guy who has worked at an FFL and as a builder for an 07/02 SOT had to have a full grasp of state and federal firearms laws. Things that can be done in other states simply can't be done in CA legally.
            There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
            The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
            The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
            The others, well......they just never learn.

            "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
            Patrick Henry.

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            • #21
              Kinsel83
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 987

              Buy now bro, while you can.

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              • #22
                CBruce
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2012
                • 1993

                Originally posted by jdsmilez
                As much as I have wanted to buy some sort of AR for the past 6 months (doing some research, saving money, etc.) I have become discouraged because of SB249 and thinking I should go with a handgun instead. Shot a .40 USP a couple weeks ago and loved it but not sure if I want to spend my saved cash on the pistol just because I am discouraged by a law that has only been proposed so far! Should I just go ahead and keep searching for a rifle (then spending extra money if the BS law passes) or should I wait until the dust settle?
                What makes you think you'll be safe with a magazine-fed, semi-automtic handgun. That's a weapon with actual, verifiable statistics to back up legislative attention. I'm honestly surprised the anti-gun crowd hasn't made handguns the focus of their campaign. Likely because they've done such a good job of vilifying "assault weapons" and making people afraid of any black rifle with a pistol grip, that switching focus now might come across as disengenous.

                If you're really worried about laws, stick with a pump-action shotgun. That's probably going to be one of the last firearms they try to take and one of the best things you can buy for HD. They're fun to shoot too.

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                • #23
                  jdsmilez
                  Junior Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 13

                  Thanks SJ.! No offense taken. I am simply going to buy a stripped lower or 2 and keep em at home.

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                  • #24
                    ninjawho?
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 649

                    go featureless and continue the battle.....dont give up...dont move..
                    Calguns hermit
                    Left Wing or right wing..argue all you want the flight plan stays the same.

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                    • #25
                      Ruiner
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 1279

                      The only thing discouraging is that I have to wait a few more weeks to get my SCAR and PTR91

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