NBC video: gun buying sting

[Packy14]

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp=48283194#48283194

Personally I don't think sales like this should be legal, there should be good background checks with mental health screening.

[Coded-Dude]

we should have mental health screenings before people are allowed to be born, reproduce, go out in public, drive a car, vote, etc. /sarcasm - ban crazies.

[nick]

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/261848...83194#48283194

Personally I don't think sales like this should be legal, there should be good background checks with mental health screening.

Why not? Personal fears aside, is there any evidence that this actually increases crime (aside from the other arguments against your suggestion)?

[NYsteveZ]

I know how sales work here in the PRK, but is there any crimes commited by NBC in this video? I would love to see the predator become the prey

[Packy14]

its funny, I doubt most of you want people with mental illness to have guns, yet whenever it is suggested that maybe something should be done about it, its all "ban crazies". Believe me, I own guns, shoot guns, love guns. I believe any responsible law abidding citizen should have a gun. That said, crazy people probably shouldn't. Maybe they shouldn't drive either, I don't have comment on that.

[Dantedamean]

its funny, I doubt most of you want people with mental illness to have guns, yet whenever it is suggested that maybe something should be done about it, its all "ban crazies". Believe me, I own guns, shoot guns, love guns. I believe any responsible law abidding citizen should have a gun. That said, crazy people probably shouldn't. Maybe they shouldn't drive either, I don't have comment on that.

While I agree people like Holmes should probably not have access to firearms, where do we stop? Baring people from obtaining a gun simply because of something they may or may not do is too extreme for me. Many people have mental illnesses, depression, anxiety, psychopaths, aggression, ect. Some people are worse then others, if we did an FMRI before someone bought a gun I have a feeling half the people who currently own a weapon wouldn't pass. You start going down that road and it can easily get out of control.

[thekwyjibo]

While I agree people like Holmes should probably not have access to firearms, where do we stop? Baring people from obtaining a gun simply because of something they may or may not do is too extreme for me. Many people have mental illnesses, depression, anxiety, psychopaths, aggression, ect. Some people are worse then others, if we did an FMRI before someone bought a gun I have a feeling half the people who currently own a weapon wouldn't pass. You start going down that road and it can easily get out of control.

And to add to this statement, remember that many of the Gun control advocates would argue that anyone who desires a firearm is, by definition, mentally ill. Ergo, no one should be allowed to purchase a firearm.

There are many people who fear this slippery slope here, and justifiably so. Given some of the tendencies we have seen in the government, to take some of the intricacies in the English language, plus a little motivated reasoning to create some really scary stuff. The whole argument on what the writers of the second amendment actually meant is one item of which this forum is very much aware.

People are not saying that this predator should have been allowed to purchase a firearm, they are more concerned with the unintended consequence of what could happen should a poorly written law be enacted.

[Dannicus]

Isn't there a space on the DROS form to admit that you're crazy? That should keep guns out of the hands of the mentally unstable just fine.

[Steve1968LS2]

The biggest problem with "crazy" is that some people hide it very well..

And who decides what "crazy" is? the govt? you?

And if a "crazy" person was bent on carnage and couldn't get a gun they would mow down dozens with truck, blow them up with a common chemical bomb, burn down a crowded venue or buy a katana and go ape**** ..

You can't stop evil people from doing evil things..

[Packy14]

well, if you watch the video... not every state has a dros process for ppt's. not saying that the dros process here is much more than a formality/tax, but at least it stops most convicts from legally acquiring weapons (illegal is a different story of course). Oh well, this country is going to s*** anyway.

[2shotjoe]

well, if you watch the video... not every state has a dros process for ppt's. not saying that the dros process here is much more than a formality/tax, but at least it stops most convicts from legally acquiring weapons (illegal is a different story of course). Oh well, this country is going to s*** anyway.

A lot of criminals don't have records yet. The can go rent a gun and steal it or buy one legally.

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[tenpercentfirearms]

They wait until the transaction is about over and then they have the guy say he probably couldn't pass a background check anyway. Not that it matters here, but in Free America, cancel that transaction right away.

I like the guy who says he has no problems selling a .50 BMG. He realizes it isn't a big deal. The reporter claims a .50 BMG is the choice of the drug cartels. Idiot.

Much more of this crap and I might actually start to get scared this backlash on this one might last.

[norcal.xd]

its nice to see even the news is recycling in this hard economy.....lol I seen that video awhile ago on this site, minus all the stuff about Colorado.

[TempleKnight]

I like the guy who says he has no problems selling a .50 BMG. He realizes it isn't a big deal. The reporter claims a .50 BMG is the choice of the drug cartels. Idiot.

Made me laugh. I got this mental picture of some 5'5" guys trying to carry around 5' rifles weighing 30 lbs without ammo. As their "every day carry" pieces.

Great reporter

[Agent 0range]

I'm not sure how PPT gun sales work in free states, but I'd be hesitant to sell one without going through an FFL. Just like selling a car, I don't want that VIN, or in this case, serial # to be in my name once it's no longer in my possession. On the flip side, I'd probably buy one without going through a FFL if it was legal to do so.