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  • #46
    rjh4758
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 644

    Originally posted by paul0660

    Not seeing the problem here. It is a bid. If you feel like taking a bit less than your asking, fire back, with your travel and time figured too. Or ignore them.
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    Bidding is for Gunbroker or EBay. I don't know anywhere that bid goes down in price.

    Obviously you have never dealt with a real lowballer. They will try to tell you how much of a favor they are doing offering you cash and how short that drive will be.

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    • #47
      rjh4758
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2010
      • 644

      Originally posted by gatesbox

      1.Seller asks for too much
      2.Buyer offers too little
      3. At this point you have two choices
      A. Create a rant thread And complain about low-ballers
      B. Sack up and counter offer, in the sales world we call this a "negotiation"
      4. Exchange goods or services, and thank God you were not born in Soviet Russia or China. Capitalism baby!
      By the way I sold the item for asking price but only after dealing with a half a dozen low ballers. I even offered to come down a little with one guy and he countered even lower than the first offer.

      You missed one step but that doesn't fit into the low baller strategy: Decline the offer and hold out if you feel your price is fair.

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      • #48
        DannyInSoCal
        Calguns Addict
        • Aug 2010
        • 8271

        When I make an offer - I'll usually post a link to back it up.

        Maybe a buy-it-now on another auction -

        Or another recent sale here. (Which is hit or miss because some sellers replace the sale prices with SPF.)

        Sometimes they sell - Sometimes they whine - Sometimes they say FU.

        Who cares - Next.......
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        • #49
          Curtis
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2008
          • 1443

          I never haggle. It drive my wife crazy. At most I will say the price is too much, but I never offer a lower price.

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          • #50
            stator
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2002
            • 850

            Originally posted by rjh4758
            But weeding through the low ballers is a pain.... If you think it's over priced just move on and keep looking.
            You should be celebrating having to weed thru low ballers! It's part of the free market where the seller cannot set the offer price. I would not have it any other way. Those are all worse than free market.
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            • #51
              keenkeen
              Calguns Addict
              • May 2011
              • 6782

              Originally posted by rjh4758
              I have had people offering 60% of what I am asking and then in the same pm the ask me to travel over an hour to do the transfer. Then when I decline the keep bugging me like they are doing me a favor offering me cash today.
              LOL...gotta love the "cash" offers. I mean, I don't take credit cards for a PPT sale so what else would anyone be paying with besides "cash"?

              Coupons? Food stamps? IOU?

              On the travel issue I think I have a new approach. When I post a gun for sale I will also post travel costs to come to your area and do an PPT...for example:

              Within 40 miles of my location = no cost
              40-80 miles = $40
              80-120 miles = $75
              120-150 miles = $100

              This would basically cover my travel cost and let the buyer decide if he wants me to come to him or drive twice for a PPT in my area or just look for another gun. Seems fair, might work out.

              I am sure not many would take me up on it but maybe it will cut down on the "Can you come to XXXX, CA to do the PPT? If so I will take it."

              Hmmmmm...
              "But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little and who talk too much." -John Dryden

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              • #52
                jlbflyboy172
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2007
                • 625

                I find no difficulty in simply responding to low-ballers saying "Thanks for the offer but I will pass."

                I personally don't have the time or energy to put any more thought into than that.

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                • #53
                  h0use
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 5783

                  do you guys pay the sticker price on a new car?
                  my friend bought a new 2012 toyota tundra platnuim. sticker was 60k.... he low balled the dealer for 40k and they said no, so we were walking out and the sales manger runs out said if you have 45k cash we will do it,call his bluff, my buddy says sure goes to my truck and pays 45k in cash.... they had to honor the deal.

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                  • #54
                    rjh4758
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 644

                    Originally posted by keenkeen
                    LOL...gotta love the "cash" offers. I mean, I don't take credit cards for a PPT sale so what else would anyone be paying with besides "cash"?

                    Coupons? Food stamps? IOU?

                    .
                    Some are pretty slick, they sound like they belong an a late night infomercial.

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                    • #55
                      SNEAKS
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 1449

                      I had another member here try to convince me his SA TRP fullrail was worth $2350 for a trade of what I had.

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                      • #56
                        paul0660
                        In Memoriam
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 15669

                        Obviously you have never dealt with a real lowballer.
                        Not in my den. On the interweb, many. Never hard to tap the N and O keys. Easier still to ignore.
                        Last edited by paul0660; 07-03-2012, 7:13 PM.
                        *REMOVE THIS PART BEFORE POSTING*

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                        • #57
                          paul0660
                          In Memoriam
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 15669

                          but I never offer a lower price.
                          BID

                          a lower price. Buyers bid, sellers offer. The recent confusion of these terms I blame on television and real estate. With perseverance, we can bring that back to the lexicon.
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                          • #58
                            DVSmith
                            Cantankerous old coot
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 3702

                            BRIAN: How much? Quick.

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: What?

                            BRIAN: It's for the wife.

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: Oh. Uhhh, twenty shekels.

                            BRIAN: Right.

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: What?

                            BRIAN: There you are.

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: Wait a minute.

                            BRIAN: What?

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: Well, we're-- we're supposed to haggle.

                            BRIAN: No, no. I've got to get--

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: What do you mean, 'no, no, no'?

                            BRIAN: I haven't time. I've got--

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: Well, give it back, then.

                            BRIAN: No, no, no. I just paid you.

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: Burt!

                            BURT: Yeah?

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: This bloke won't haggle.

                            BURT: Won't haggle?!

                            BRIAN: All right. Do we have to?

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: Now, look. I want twenty for that.

                            BRIAN: I-- I just gave you twenty.

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: Now, are you telling me that's not worth twenty shekels?

                            BRIAN: No.

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: Look at it. Feel the quality. That's none of your goat.

                            BRIAN: All right. I'll give you nineteen then.

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: No, no, no. Come on. Do it properly.

                            BRIAN: What?

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: Haggle properly. This isn't worth nineteen.

                            BRIAN: Well, you just said it was worth twenty.

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: Ohh, dear. Ohh, dear. Come on. Haggle.

                            BRIAN: Huh. All right. I'll give you ten.

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: That's more like it. Ten?! Are you trying to insult me?! Me, with a poor dying grandmother?! Ten?!

                            BRIAN: All right. I'll give you eleven.

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: Now you're gettin' it. Eleven?! Did I hear you right?! Eleven?! This cost me twelve. You want to ruin me?!

                            BRIAN: Seventeen?

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: No, no, no, no. Seventeen.

                            BRIAN: Eighteen?

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: No, no. You go to fourteen now.

                            BRIAN: All right. I'll give you fourteen.

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: Fourteen?! Are you joking?!

                            BRIAN: That's what you told me to say.

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: Ohh, dear.

                            BRIAN: Ohh, tell me what to say. Please!

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: Offer me fourteen.

                            BRIAN: I'll give you fourteen.

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: He's offering me fourteen for this!

                            BRIAN: Fifteen!

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: Seventeen. My last word. I won't take a penny less, or strike me dead.

                            BRIAN: Sixteen.

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: Done. Nice to do business with you.

                            BRIAN: Huh.

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: Tell you what. I'll throw you in this as well.

                            BRIAN: I don't want it, but thanks.

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: Burt!

                            BURT: Yeah?

                            BRIAN: All right! All right! All right!

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: Now, where's the sixteen you owe me?

                            BRIAN: I just gave you twenty.

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: Oh, yeah. That's right. That's four I owe you, then.

                            BRIAN: Well, that's all right. That's fine. That's fine.

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: No. Hang on. I've got it here somewhere.

                            BRIAN: That's all right. That's four for the gourd.

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: Four? For this gourd? Four?! Look at it. It's worth ten if it's worth a shekel.

                            BRIAN: But you just gave it to me for nothing.

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: Yes, but it's worth ten!

                            BRIAN: All right. All right.

                            HARRY THE HAGGLER: No, no, no, no. It's not worth ten. You're supposed to argue, 'Ten for that? You must be mad!' Ohh, well. [sniff] One born every minute.

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                            • #59
                              DJ Skillz
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 1255

                              A while back, I was looking at an item on craigslist. I was all ready to pay the seller's asking price, but hey, it's craigslist, so I shot the seller a (in my opinion) reasonable offer. I was polite about it, not the usual "YO DAWG I GIVE YA FIVE BUCKS" offers you get on CL.

                              Instead of a polite, "Sorry, I won't take $xxx, but I can drop it down to $xxx." or even "Sorry, I'm firm on my price," I got a very, very rude response.
                              If I hadn't gotten the rude response, he would have sold his item at full asking price. Instead he got no sale.

                              Just something to think about when you're dealing with people you consider "low-ballers."

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                              • #60
                                AAShooter
                                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                                CGN Contributor
                                • May 2010
                                • 7188

                                Low-ballers would not make offers if it didn't work. It doesn't work all the time but often enough. Many Californians are looking to solve a problem and are less worried about top dollar.

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