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[axel4488]

It doesn't matter what the tool is designed for, it is the potential harm it could be used for that prevents its entry into the courthouse.

That right there sounds like anti talk. It's potentially harmful oh no!!!! We must ban it!!!

It always starts somewhere.

[VMCJ-3]

That right there sounds like anti talk. It's potentially harmful oh no!!!! We must ban it!!!

It always starts somewhere.

C'mon Axel...
As a fellow Movalistanian, you know that the criminal element in our neck of the 'hood, can create **** that would make MacGyver look like an amateur.

[Ron-Solo]

That right there sounds like anti talk. It's potentially harmful oh no!!!! We must ban it!!!

It always starts somewhere.

You can't be that clueless. This is a specific environment that is being secured for a specific reason. Inmates are notoriously crafty.

We had an inmate trying to get his sentence reduced at one of my courthouses on multiple violent felonies including robbery, rape, kidnapping, and attempted murder. His earliest possible parole date was in the year 2249. He was searched thoroughly before entering the courtroom. He was searched again after leaving the courtroom, where we found an actual handcuff key and a homemade one. The real key was smuggled to him by his lawyer and he got the homemade one from his girlfriend who had appeared before the judge on another matter and secreted it under the table. He got another 25 to life sentence for that. They will be using Star Dates before he gets out. The lawyer got 5 years and can never practice law again. It was a second strike for the girlfriend and she got 15 to life.

[Ron-Solo]

Not horribly shocked at the thought. I can tell you the new machines all seem to be turned to the max. I wonder why?

As long as the Judges Personnel and Budget Committee (Or whatever they call it today.) wants to keep him he'll keep his overpaid job. Frankly the court could save money and increase the security level by replacing him with someone who actually cares about the job.

The new machines, Metor/Rapiscan don't detect as well as the Garrett's. They have a much higher false alarm rate and create needless delays, longer lines and more work for the screeners. One of the things we disagreed on many times.

[Turbinator]

Oh I'm dead serious.

I hate it when people question my right to have handcuff's and handcuff keys. It's none of their damn business and I will make their questions as uncomfortable as possible for them.

Actually, I meant that you were serious that the keys and handcuffs are for kinky sex. I believe you do say that to the staff; I'm just not sure they believe that you're stating the truth when you disclose the purpose of the items.

Turby

[axel4488]

C'mon Axel...
As a fellow Movalistanian, you know that the criminal element in our neck of the 'hood, can create **** that would make MacGyver look like an amateur.

You are right...made me lol

You can't be that clueless. This is a specific environment that is being secured for a specific reason. Inmates are notoriously crafty.

We had an inmate trying to get his sentence reduced at one of my courthouses on multiple violent felonies including robbery, rape, kidnapping, and attempted murder. His earliest possible parole date was in the year 2249. He was searched thoroughly before entering the courtroom. He was searched again after leaving the courtroom, where we found an actual handcuff key and a homemade one. The real key was smuggled to him by his lawyer and he got the homemade one from his girlfriend who had appeared before the judge on another matter and secreted it under the table. He got another 25 to life sentence for that. They will be using Star Dates before he gets out. The lawyer got 5 years and can never practice law again. It was a second strike for the girlfriend and she got 15 to life.

Yes but we are not talking about a normal courthouse We are talking about traffic court...where you drive to a business park and go up to suite 115 to go see the pretty judge riding out his last years until he retires.

[Ron-Solo]

Yes but we are not talking about a normal courthouse We are talking about traffic court...where you drive to a business park and go up to suite 115 to go see the pretty judge riding out his last years until he retires.

There is no such thing as a "normal" courthouse. A LOT of people get remanded to custody from traffic court. One of the biggest courtroom brawls I ever encountered was in a "civil" courthouse where they heard Unlawful Detainer (eviction) cases. Small claims is also very volatile.

How many enemies do you think the "Pretty Judge" you describe has made over the years? Judges send hundreds, if not thousands of criminals to prison during their careers. I knew a judge who was murdered, along with his wife, because of a criminal case he had decided years earlier. He was hearing civil cases at the time of his death.

As a former resident of Moreno Valley, I can attest that it is a city with more than its share of criminals. Hard core ones at that. How many other cities have a school board member out on bail for attempted murder and several other crimes?

My Bona Fides:
During my tenure as a sergeant and lieutenant in the LA County Courts, I was responsible for the management of the following court districts: County Courthouse District (Stanley Mosk Courthouse, Hollywood Courthouse, Metropolitan "Traffic" Courthouse, and Central Civil West), the Criminal Courts District (Criminal Courts Building aka Foltz Courthouse, and the Central Arraignment Court), Pomona District (Pomona North, Pomona South, West Covina "Citrus" Court, El Monte "Rio Hondo" Court, Alhambra Court) and Pasadena District (Pasadena Court {old Superior and Municipal}, Glendale Court, Burbank Court, Edelman Children's Court, Department 95 Mental Health Court)

The Metroplitan "Traffic" Court in Los Angeles hears as many felony cases as any other court, possibly more. They conduct both preliminary hearings and felony trials, including murder cases.

Each courthouse had its unique properties, but shared many of the same problems, especially with contraband. I have seen every kind of case you can think of, from jaywalking to multiple murders. I have testified in almost every kind of case you can imagine also from years of working patrol.

I have been involved in the setup and maintanance of metal detectors throught LA County, an instructor on security screening, I set up metal detectors for the 2002 Salt Lake Winter Olympics, and the security detail for President George W. Bush with the US Secret Service. I am one of two people on the west coast authorized by Garrett Metal Detectors to work on the internal parts of their units without voiding the warranty. Although retired from LE, I am working as an independent contractor for Garrett Metal Detectors installing equipment at federal courthouses.

There is a lot that goes on behind the scenes at your local courthouse that most people are not aware of. The Criminal Courts Building in LA begins its day at 0430 and the inmates start arriving at 0500. The doors to the courtrooms might only be open from 0900-1700, but the building is still going until at least 2100, and sometimes later.

[axel4488]

Well thanks for your life story but I still stand by my opinion. Retarded bans for retarded people I spose.


Also, 1000 posts!

[IntoForever]

When I'm questioned about my handcuff key I tell them straight up "It's for kinky sex" and look them RIGHT IN THE EYE.

They nervously return my keys. Every. Time.

I'd throw in a "you should probably wash your hands now" just to really mess them up.

Not horribly shocked at the thought. I can tell you the new machines all seem to be turned to the max. I wonder why?

I wonder if that's the same company that installed 'hidden' metal detectors that were buried in stucco and they had a brain fart and used the chicken wire, which set off all the detectors when they turned them on???

[Ron-Solo]

I wonder if that's the same company that installed 'hidden' metal detectors that were buried in stucco and they had a brain fart and used the chicken wire, which set off all the detectors when they turned them on???

Sorry, but that has to be an urban legend. The units don't detect metal that way. They ignore stationary metal such as rebar in a floor.

Well thanks for your life story but I still stand by my opinion. Retarded bans for retarded people I spose.


Also, 1000 posts!

You obviously don't get it, but you are entitled to your opinion, however wrong it may be.

[glockman19]

Lol what?


What does that have to do with anything?

OP said that the key was for a gun lock, the LE responded with "you must disassemble a lot of guns with that key"


If OP is telling the truth, the cop is an idiot or he was joking.

I go with LE was an idiot.

this- It's a fast paced environment with the scanners . And add in they simply do not want any type of CONTRABAND within the court for liability reasons. Not siding with the LA County Court, but I can see that with time a factor, it's better to just hold off on any type of CONTRABAND and be safe then hold court outside debating what is acceptable and what isn't.

Time a factor? NO ONE was in the court at 3:45 PM...it was more like a morgue.



Ron-Solo,

I am banned fron off-topic and Law Enforcement because of YOU...and the other LE Zealot meangreen 46.

[Kestryll]

Ron-Solo,

I am banned fron off-topic and Law Enforcement because of YOU...and the other LE Zealot meangreen 46.

NO.

You are banned from OT and LEO because you can't shut your damn pie hole and keep your biased bigotry and juvenile comments concerning LE to yourself.

Quit trying to blame others for your own lack of self control and respect for the rules.

[bruceflinch]

Sounds silly, but if it the House Rules, then.....

[axel4488]

IBTNM (In Before The Nazi Mods)


Oh wait, Kestryll already posted damn......lol

I AM JOKING KES DON'T BAN ME!!!!

While I do agree with glockman on Ron-Solo and some others being the types who see a cop can do no wrong, it still is your fault. Just keep your fingers away from the keyboard when you jimmies are rustled.

[Kestryll]

IBTNM (In Before The Nazi Mods)


Oh wait, Kestryll already posted damn......lol

I AM JOKING KES DON'T BAN ME!!!!

You have your papers, Ya?

While I do agree with glockman on Ron-Solo and some others being the types who see a cop can do no wrong,
If you're going to make that kind of statement you have to also state the reverse, that glockman19 and several others are the type who believe a cop can do no right and are inherently guilty just because they are cops.


it still is your fault. Just keep your fingers away from the keyboard when you jimmies are rustled.

In the end, that is what it all comes down to, each person is responsible for their own actions and words.