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  • #31
    anymoose
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 1185

    Originally posted by fallenknight308
    I have a question.
    Where did the "keep your ammo far far away from the firearm" thing originate from?
    Was it a law in the past that got changed?
    I used to hear this FUD years ago, and always followed it. But I was told by everyone back then that it was indeed law. (all before I had access to the web and this wonderful forum)
    I guess to answer your question in a different way- it was never illegal to have guns an ammo in close proximity, but it was and is generally illegal to have your gun loaded during transportation . There was confusion about what and what wasn't loaded, and people thought that guns and ammo in the same container were considered loaded, people V Clark cleared up the definition of loaded.

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    • #32
      Librarian
      Admin and Poltergeist
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2005
      • 44660

      Originally posted by fallenknight308
      I have a question.
      Where did the "keep your ammo far far away from the firearm" thing originate from?
      Was it a law in the past that got changed?
      I used to hear this FUD years ago, and always followed it. But I was told by everyone back then that it was indeed law. (all before I had access to the web and this wonderful forum)
      Originally posted by paul0660
      If you are carrying a handgun illegally and it is either loaded or ammo is "readily accessible", the penalty is worse. I think that is the source of at least some of that confusion.
      Originally posted by anymoose
      I guess to answer your question in a different way- it was never illegal to have guns an ammo in close proximity, but it was and is generally illegal to have your gun loaded during transportation . There was confusion about what and what wasn't loaded, and people thought that guns and ammo in the same container were considered loaded, people V Clark cleared up the definition of loaded.
      Those, plus a bit of Penal Code
      16840(a) As used in Section 25800, a firearm shall be deemed to
      be "loaded" whenever both the firearm and the unexpended
      ammunition capable of being discharged from the firearm are in
      the immediate possession of the same person.

      25800 (a) Every person who carries a loaded firearm with the
      intent to commit a felony is guilty of armed criminal action.
      that seems to have been generalized for no good reason.
      ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

      Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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      • #33
        E Pluribus Unum
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2006
        • 8098

        Originally posted by Librarian
        Those, plus a bit of Penal Code that seems to have been generalized for no good reason.
        For clarification... the "Gun and ammunition in immediate possession" only applies to people who's intent is to commit a felony while in posession of a firearm.
        Originally posted by Alan Gura
        The Second Amendment now applies to state and local governments. Our lawsuit is a reminder to state and local bureaucrats that we have a Bill of Rights in this country, not a Bill of Needs
        Originally posted by hoffmang
        12050[CCW] licenses will be shall issue soon.

        -Gene
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        • #34
          darksands
          Senior Member
          • May 2008
          • 710

          Went to the Sheriff range in OC with a deputy friend and they check civilian firearms before they allow it onto the range. I open my case and I had loaded magazines along side the gun. Deputy checking the gun just said it wasn't a good idea even though it was legal.
          All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing

          "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm." ---George Orwell on a BBC broadcast, April 4, 1942

          "Fast is fine. Accuracy is final. You need to learn to shoot slow, real fast." ---Wyatt Earp

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          • #35
            paul0660
            In Memoriam
            • Jul 2007
            • 15669

            Deputy checking the gun just said it wasn't a good idea even though it was legal.
            And they hired him.........probably not a good time to tell that joke.
            *REMOVE THIS PART BEFORE POSTING*

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