FUD Check

[dedub]

Recently, while at the local range, while I'm unlocking my range bag, the guy next to me notices that my ammo is in the same compartment as my unloaded handgun. He comes over to tell me that I'm breaking the law and that ammo cannot be in stored in the same compartment as a firearm. I say thanks, yet, this guy won't let up. He's not being an a**hole, but he starts going on about how's he's a firearms instructor and it's against CA law. Finally, I say something like "well, there won't be any ammo left when I leave so I should be OK" and then turn around.

Now, everything I've read on Calguns says otherwise - that storing ammo and firearms in the same locked case is OK, so long as it's not in the gun itself. And, normally I would ignore unsolicited advice from strangers. It's just that this guy was popping off his credentials and was so insistent.

So, for the last time ever to be asked on Calguns , what's the answer? Also, for bonus points, what's the statute so the next time someone comes up I can reference it?

Thanks in advance.

[Ubermcoupe]

Ammo can be next to your gun in the same locked compartment.

I will be traveling to California and want to carry my weapon. I currently have a concealed weapon permit. How can I legally transport my weapon while driving through the state?
California law does not recognize concealed weapon permits from other states; therefore, they would not be held valid. If you wish to transport a handgun during your California visit, it should be carried unloaded in a locked container. In the absence of a suitable container, you may secure the unloaded handgun in the locked trunk of a passenger car. Ammunition may be kept in the same container or trunk, but the handgun must remain unloaded with no rounds in the cylinder and no loaded magazines in the magazine well.

If you have additional questions, contact the California Department of Justice at 916-227-3703.

From the CHP website:

http://www.chp.ca.gov/html/answers.html

[Librarian]

Also, for bonus points, what's the statute so the next time someone comes up I can reference it?

There is no statute governing the transport of ammunition.

The only issue is 'is the gun loaded?'. For that explanation, see the wiki -- http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/De..._in_California

[Arkangel]

As said before.... FUD.

That's the scary part of FUD, most of the time its being spewed by people who you would think would know better.

[edwardm]

Recently, while at the local range, while I'm unlocking my range bag, the guy next to me notices that my ammo is in the same compartment as my unloaded handgun. He comes over to tell me that I'm breaking the law and that ammo cannot be in stored in the same compartment as a firearm. I say thanks, yet, this guy won't let up. He's not being an a**hole, but he starts going on about how's he's a firearms instructor and it's against CA law. Finally, I say something like "well, there won't be any ammo left when I leave so I should be OK" and then turn around.

Now, everything I've read on Calguns says otherwise - that storing ammo and firearms in the same locked case is OK, so long as it's not in the gun itself. And, normally I would ignore unsolicited advice from strangers. It's just that this guy was popping off his credentials and was so insistent.

So, for the last time ever to be asked on Calguns , what's the answer? Also, for bonus points, what's the statute so the next time someone comes up I can reference it?

Thanks in advance.

It's not a question of statute allowing you. If a statute does not forbid something, then it us, under our 235+ year old system of governance, legal (generally).

Mr. Instructor is a douchebag. Seek to educate him. Credentials are meaningless. I deal with attorneys that "know" gun law, and in reality could not hump their way out of a brothel.

If the firearm is not loaded (see People v Clark for the relevant definition) you are in the clear.

Aside: FUD people really peeve me.

[paul0660]

I deal with attorneys that "know" gun law, and in reality could not hump their way out of a brothel.

Post of the week. If you don't know more than your counsel regardless of the issue, you are screwed. I have met few attorneys who admit lack of knowledge. Those that have, I employ.

[hermosabeach]

How to reply to the range ninja masters

My standard reply is to be overly thankful

Wow. I appreciate your concern. I keep them unloaded and legal when i leave
Thanks for stopping by!!!


The firing line and or in public is too public for a meaningful discussion

[huntercf]

He really doesn't know the laws, you can transport ammo in the same case as your firearms when you check them on a flight which is a little more restrictive than transporting in your vehicle.
As Bill Engvall says "Here's your sign".

[Don the savage]

He must work at turners

[Turo]

So many people spew this lie that it just becomes accepted. I can't stand it when someone knows so much, teaches others about shooting, and when you ask them which penal code says you can't carry ammo in the same bag as the gun they give you one of those, "What's a penal code? I'm just saying it's illegal, I don't care what the penal code says." Sadly, this is usually the response I get.
I've gotten so tired of arguing the point that I usually just bet them a thousand dollars on the spot that there's no law against it and see if they take it. Only one has so far, but apparently his word doesn't mean much.

[dedub]

Thanks for the feedback (and the chuckles). I guess I was second guessing myself since this guy said he made a living firearms training.

[alfred1222]

He must work at turners

Hahahahaha

[kblack583]

Ive run into this twice at gunshops over the past few weeks. Its always a cop friend or customer hwo has told them this

I just tell them to look at the CHP website now.

[anymoose]

Ive run into this twice at gunshops over the past few weeks. Its always a cop friend or customer hwo has told them this

I just tell them to look at the CHP website now.

i overheard an employee at a gun store tell a customer that it was illegal to transport guns and ammo in the same bag, i chimed in and corrected him, so he brought out his HSC answer sheet because he knew the question and answer were on the HSC. He looked over the sheet for a while, then told me its still a bad idea because you could find a cop in a bad mood who would have some issues with it. the customers agreed that it was a bad idea to make a cop in a mad mood upset, and that they shouldnt transport firearms and ammo in the same case.

[CSACANNONEER]

Next time ask for his business card. AFTER he gives it to you say "Thanks, now I know who not to recommend since, you don't know what you are talking about." Then, come here and post his name and the name of his business so that we all know that he doesn't have a clue.