FUD Check

[E Pluribus Unum]

It amazes me at how many gun store/range employees, and LEOS, that are full of FUD.... I gave up trying to educate them, because after all, they know everything....

[huntercf]

It amazes me at how many gun store/range employees, and LEOS, that are full of FUD.... I gave up trying to educate them, because after all, they know everything....

IMO it is not amazing at all, CA has so many gun laws and restrictions plus with the added silence of the DOJ and ever changing underground regulation by the AG it is almost impossible for anyone to know about all the laws (unless you are Gene and a few others on CG).

[MrExel17]

WOW, a firearms instructor too weaksauce, wonder why peeps that are involved in hadnleing ,selling,etc.. dont read up on things like this to have solid info. Rather than saying pigs can fly.

[E Pluribus Unum]

IMO it is not amazing at all, CA has so many gun laws and restrictions plus with the added silence of the DOJ and ever changing underground regulation by the AG it is almost impossible for anyone to know about all the laws (unless you are Gene and a few others on CG).

People that are charged with educating the public (firearms INSTRUCTORS, GUN shop employees...et cetera), and those that are sworn to enforce the law... OWE it to the people they serve to know the basics. How to legally transport a firearm is as basic as one can get; there is NO excuse for anyone in those positions to be ignorant.

In My not so Humble Opinion...

[XYZ]

Next time ask for his business card. AFTER he gives it to you say "Thanks, now I know who not to recommend since, you don't know what you are talking about." Then, come here and post his name and the name of his business so that we all know that he doesn't have a clue.

This right here.

[jlbflyboy172]

Next time ask for his business card. AFTER he gives it to you say "Thanks, now I know who not to recommend since, you don't know what you are talking about." Then, come here and post his name and the name of his business so that we all know that he doesn't have a clue.

I like this approach. I will do this next time I hear that FUD. This and/or print out the CHP web site stuff and keep it in my range bag and make the $1000 dollar bet. That should shut them up!

[m98]

OR, you could spread More FUD by telling him ur retired military or le and ur exempted from ALL of kommiforniakingdom Laws. U can have fullauto no bb and can buy hi caps. BUT you cant own suppressors. The only reason why ur guns arent fullauto is becuz u choose not to go thru the very very extensive paper work, got a get a lawyer and pay the yearly $10k renewal fees.

I get a kick out of people that talks fud to me. I would talk fud right back.

[JDPhx501]

People that are charged with educating the public (firearms INSTRUCTORS, GUN shop employees...et cetera), and those that are sworn to enforce the law... OWE it to the people they serve to know the basics. How to legally transport a firearm is as basic as one can get; there is NO excuse for anyone in those positions to be ignorant.

In My not so Humble Opinion...

Exactly.

[CaliforniaLiberal]

This ammo carried with unloaded handgun comes up a lot here. Cops, NRA instructors, gun shop staff, FFLs. Many thousands of Californians believe it.

Here's the question on a CHP FAQ

http://www.chp.ca.gov/html/answers.html#05

[Mr.1904]

I had someone tell me at a pistol course yesterday that having loaded mags is having a loaded weapon

Just smile and nod.

Me - "Man, i really don't feel like gearing down and getting food, i might just hit up a drivethru somewhere."

Him - "Do you have a CCW?"

Me - "No? I'm not taking the pistol with me."

Him - "A loaded mag is considered a loaded weapon in CA."

Me - "Ok."

[Sniper3142]

Next time ask for his business card. AFTER he gives it to you say "Thanks, now I know who not to recommend since, you don't know what you are talking about." Then, come here and post his name and the name of his business so that we all know that he doesn't have a clue.

^THIS is the correct response!!

[huntercf]

People that are charged with educating the public (firearms INSTRUCTORS, GUN shop employees...et cetera), and those that are sworn to enforce the law... OWE it to the people they serve to know the basics. How to legally transport a firearm is as basic as one can get; there is NO excuse for anyone in those positions to be ignorant.

In My not so Humble Opinion...

I'm not excusing it, just pointing out the reasons why we run into so much FUD so often. Yes they should know and politicians should know what they are talking about when they introduce and vote for a law.

[fallenknight308]

I have a question.
Where did the "keep your ammo far far away from the firearm" thing originate from?
Was it a law in the past that got changed?
I used to hear this FUD years ago, and always followed it. But I was told by everyone back then that it was indeed law. (all before I had access to the web and this wonderful forum)

[paul0660]

I have a question.
Where did the "keep your ammo far far away from the firearm" thing originate from?
Was it a law in the past that got changed?
I used to hear this FUD years ago, and always followed it. But I was told by everyone back then that it was indeed law. (all before I had access to the web and this wonderful forum)

If you are carrying a handgun illegally and it is either loaded or ammo is "readily accessible", the penalty is worse. I think that is the source of at least some of that confusion.

[anymoose]

If you are carrying a handgun illegally and it is either loaded or ammo is "readily accessible", the penalty is worse. I think that is the source of at least some of that confusion.

Illegally also extends to carrying with the intent to commit a felony IIRC. So if your ammo and gun are in the same bag with the gun unloaded and you are in the way to rob a bank, I think that counts as loaded...

People V Clark also helped clear up the loaded / unloaded thing.