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**jjperl** · 01-15-2008, 8:10 PM

haven't you guys seen The Hills have Eyes?

**532Fastback** · 01-15-2008, 8:49 PM

I was told if you go into the gold mines near my house to go armed because bums live inside some of them and they will attack you.
I went into one it was pretty tight, i know of several others now too.

**jerryg1776** · 01-15-2008, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by AS45-70

spelunking = The challenges of the sport depend on the cave being visited, but often include the negotiation of pitches, squeezes, and water.

While not common in spelunking, SCUBA gear is utilized to negotiate water or even purhaps a squeeze located underwater. While the equipment is the same as SCUBA diving the kit or rig set up is quite different.

If your short on air for two ppl to egress the cave system, one may want to shoot his partner with the spelunking gun in order to take his scuba cylinders and escape to the surface. sounds reasonable to me anyway

Mental note... DO NOT GO SPELUNKING WITH AS45-70

**socalguns** · 01-15-2008, 11:15 PM

Spelunking advice number #34 if the poop is big enough for spelunking, do not walk, but run away, then promptly call a press conference

**saki302** · 01-16-2008, 12:00 AM

I read the tunnel rats in Nam preferred .22's .38s and 9mm's over the .45s due to blast and noise (though IMO 9mm isn't much quieter). I would think a nice low pressure .38 with hard cast bullets and 4" barrel would be a perfect spelunking gun- and cheap too.

-Dave

**socalguns** · 01-16-2008, 12:15 AM

or even a full auto airgun loaded with soft lead balls

(or better yet, one of the pointy lead pellets)

**petey** · 01-16-2008, 7:51 AM

I've done a lot of spelunking in Calaveras and Tuolomne counties, and it is advisable to carry when legal. There are a number of caves on BLM land in the area,but very few of them are near roads.
I've had encounters with:

1. Bear
2. Marijuana farms
3. Disgruntled prospectors. (The BLM used to give out limited mineral rights for some areas on a temporary basis)
4. People who simply are unable to coexist with other people.

A good spelunking gun should be stainless, and able to withstand dirt and grime.

**emc002** · 01-16-2008, 8:18 AM

Originally posted by Nodda Duma

I did a lot of spelunking back in Missouri. That state has more caves than any other place in the country (3000+ last I heard).

Seriously though, we always had to be careful near or in caverns which made ideal homes for wolves, coyotes, mountain lions, etc. The type of animals that don't like to be cornered in the back of their cave. I could see how having a spelunking gun would be useful.

-Jason

There are wolves in Missouri?

**AJAX22** · 01-16-2008, 10:23 AM

I occasionally go spelunking in abandoned mines.

I use a .38 colt police positive with soft lead bullets and a low powdercharge.

You want a gun thats reliable, tight and will go bang every time, isn't pretty (it WILL get scuffed) and will be relativly unaffected by dust/light dirt.

You can't tell what you're going to run into in a mine, be it a druggie camping out, some punks who just like your gear better than their own, large animals, small slithery animals with rattles, medium sized mean animals, two legged vermin, or zombie undead.

Remember to get a good holster, nothing sucks worse than having to descend the 500 foot airshaft because you dropped your f*&#^%@ing pistol