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  • #31
    Capybara
    CGSSA Coordinator
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2012
    • 15307

    PPT is allowed and law enforcement sales are still allowed. At least for now. But history shows that in a session or two, they will outlaw PPTs. Then they will want to confiscate your Glocks. All you gotta do is look at what they've done in the past, it's what they will do in the future. Then they will extend it to banning all semi auto firearms. Commifornia will go for full civilian disarmament, it's been coming for years. I'm actually surprised they have taken this long. Illinois is going for it with HB 5471. Commifornia won't be far behind.

    (The Center Square) - The Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) and its partners are weighing in on a case out of Illinois being considered by the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals.


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    • #32
      Rumblemonkey
      Member
      • Nov 2017
      • 432

      After reading the bill, a couple of times, I do not see "Glock" specifically mentioned anywhere. IMO, it says virtually (I hate that word!) ALL new semi auto handgun sales after Jan 1 2026. (except PPT's) Am I wrong? Why does Glock seem to be the only one mentioned here? I am probably missing something obvious-sorry! Here is the text I see-

      Existing law prohibits any person from selling, leasing, or transferring any firearm unless the person is licensed as a firearms dealer, as specified. Existing law prescribes certain requirements and prohibitions for licensed firearms dealers. A violation of any of these requirements or prohibitions is grounds for forfeiture of a firearms dealer’s license. For purposes of these provisions, existing law defines “machinegun” to mean, among other definitions, any weapon that shoots or is designed to shoot automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.

      This bill would prohibit a licensed firearms dealer to sell, offer for sale, exchange, give, transfer, or deliver any semiautomatic convertible machinegun-convertible pistol, except as specified. For these purposes, the bill would define “convertible “machinegun-convertible pistol” as any semiautomatic pistol with a cruciform trigger bar that can be readily converted by hand or with common household tools into a machinegun solely by the installation or attachment of a pistol converter converter, as specified, and “pistol converter” as any device or instrument that that, when installed in or attached to the rear of the slide of a semiautomatic pistol pistol, replaces the backplate and interferes with the trigger mechanism and thereby enables the pistol to discharge a number of shots or bullets rapidly or automatically with one continuous pull of the trigger. shoot automatically more than one shot by a single function of the trigger. The bill would make a violation of these provisions punishable by a fine, a 2nd violation punishable by a fine that may result in a suspension or revocation of the dealer’s license, license and removal from certain centralized lists maintained by the Department of Justice, and a 3rd violation punishable as a misdemeanor that shall result in the revocation of the dealer’s license. license and removal from certain centralized lists.

      Existing law prohibits the manufacture, sale, possession, or transportation of a machinegun, except as authorized. A violation of these prohibitions is punishable as a felony.

      This bill would expand the above definition of “machinegun” to include any convertible machinegun-convertible pistol equipped with a pistol converter and, thus, prohibit the manufacture, sale, possession, or transportation of a convertible machinegun-convertible pistol equipped with a pistol converter.

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      • #33
        mitch1
        Member
        • Aug 2016
        • 421

        I dont believe there is any pistol other than Glock or its clones that use a "cruciform trigger bar". That is why they worded it that way

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        • #34
          H2H
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2005
          • 1655

          glock worded because mostly use cruciform type trigger (glocks and glock clones). Some Smith& Wesson and other guns are also targeted as long as they have that type of cruciform trigger.

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          • #35
            The Gleam
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2011
            • 12388

            SAF FILES LAWSUIT CHALLENGING NEWLY SIGNED CALIFORNIA GLOCK BAN - October 13, 2025

            https://saf.org/saf-files-lawsuit-ch...nia-glock-ban/

            BELLEVUE, Wash. — Oct. 13, 2025 — In response to California Gov. Gavin Newsom signing new gun control bills into law, the Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) and its partners have filed a new lawsuit challenging the ban on the commercial sale of all Glock and Glock platform handguns in California.

            Specifically, the lawsuit challenges AB 1127, which Newsom signed into law on Friday. The new law bans the sale of “…any semiautomatic pistol with a cruciform trigger bar that can be readily converted by hand or with common household tools…into a machinegun by the installation or attachment of a pistol converter as a replacement for the slide’s backplate without any additional engineering, machining, or modification of the pistol’s trigger mechanism.” The Glock ban takes effect on July 1, 2026.

            “Prior to AB 1127, Gen 3 Glock, and similar handguns built on the Glock platform, were available for commercial sale because they were grandfathered onto California’s handgun roster,” said SAF Director of Legal Operations Bill Sack. “California is already subject to an injunction because the California Handgun Roster unconstitutionally bans handguns in common use for lawful purposes. Rather than heed the demands of the Second Amendment and their own courts, California lawmakers have responded by doubling down and expanding their handgun ban. We’ll see them in court.”

            The new lawsuit filed today in the United States District Court for the Southern District of California is titled Jaymes v. Bonta. SAF is joined in the case by the National Rifle Association, Firearms Policy Coalition, a licensed retailer and two individuals.

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            Originally posted by Librarian
            What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

            If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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            • #36
              H2H
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2005
              • 1655

              Nice ! now the waiting game.

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              • #37
                Snoopy47
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 3879

                Originally posted by SDDAVE56

                I have no Glocks, and Im ok.

                Soon you will have nothing.

                Keep in mind, the handgun manufacture with the largest market share has been excluded from California. This is strategic.

                THE ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! reason more pistols got on the roster was a win regarding the Micro Stamping. There is NO WAY gun grabbers are going to let that stop them.

                Once they figure out any magazine fed firearm can have the firing pin jammed into the fire position and turned into a SLAM FIRE automatic they will write the law.
                Before there was Polymer there was Accuracy.

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                • #38
                  arrix
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 3913

                  Aren't Gen4/Gen5 Glocks AB1127 compliant? They have solved the switch issue, so why doesn't Glock register those instead?
                  There is no week nor day nor hour, when tyranny may not enter upon this country, if the people lose their supreme confidence in themselves -- and lose their roughness and spirit of defiance -- Tyranny may always enter -- there is no charm, no bar against it -- the only bar against it is a large resolute breed of men.

                  -Walt Whitman

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                  • #39
                    Capybara
                    CGSSA Coordinator
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 15307

                    Originally posted by arrix
                    Aren't Gen4/Gen5 Glocks AB1127 compliant? They have solved the switch issue, so why doesn't Glock register those instead?
                    No MDM and no LCI. Without those, cannot be placed on the roster.
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                    • #40
                      Dan_Eastvale
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 10197

                      I doubt all semi auto pistols will ever be banned in CA. They've had plenty of time to act on that with no action.

                      And especially now that a lot of Dems/Socialists/Communists are buying them up anticipating having to use them against federal government law enforcement activity.

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                      • #41
                        Garbcollector
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 2281

                        Originally posted by Dan_Eastvale
                        I doubt all semi auto pistols will ever be banned in CA. They've had plenty of time to act on that with no action.

                        And especially now that a lot of Dems/Socialists/Communists are buying them up anticipating having to use them against federal government law enforcement activity.
                        Didn't colorado just ban semi autos?

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                        • #42
                          Grendel Guy
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 2391

                          Please forgive if I missed it, are any Glock accessories (barrels, slides, etc.) verboten? Should I go a get a T-shirt (not the one with a whale on it)?

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                          • #43
                            The Gleam
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 12388

                            Latest news is that other Leftist and totalitarian wishing states are fast-tracking bills that mirror this CA bill.

                            This needs to get tackled, and fast.


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                            Originally posted by Librarian
                            What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                            If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                            • #44
                              omega
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jan 2005
                              • 3082

                              GLOCKS are history , once the Gov bans something you will never get them back , nothing ever comes back

                              next step they will ban the possession.

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                              • #45
                                DolphinFan
                                Veteran Member
                                • Dec 2012
                                • 2581

                                When picking up my new M1A Tanker rifle I DROS'd a Glock 17, pick it up now in 10 days, and ordered a Glock 34 that I'll DROS in 10 days when I puck up the 17.
                                I now have all 4 Gen 3 9mm Glocks 17, 19, 26 & 34, in addition to them I have a Glock 30, 42, & 43.
                                Thank you Gavin for giving me the incentive.

                                As for the legislation, I'm sure it will be stayed and we will go back to the status quo prior to inception of having them available.
                                I HOPE that the SCOUTS now takes up the Roster and reminds CA that they CANNOT BAN FIREARMS IN COMMON USE.
                                10/15/2022 - Called to get on the list
                                2/18/2023 - Interview set
                                4/27/2023 - Class
                                4/30/2023 - Live Scan
                                5/9/2023 - Interview
                                6/26/2023 - Approval Letter
                                8/1/2023 - Issued

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