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  • #16
    Mytmoss
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 812

    I would carry a Canon R5 II with 100-500L. It's not a fast last lens, but it has reach. I have been on many trips before, and I do like reach. I agree, however, that I should not switch lenses. However, in the past, I have carried multiple cameras.

    Originally posted by P5Ret

    I don't know what camera system you're running, but after more than a few whale watching trips all up and down the west coast, I'd take minimal gear. Keeping track of all the kit, as well as changing lenes on a rocking boat is a distraction at best. My go to has been a full frame body Canon 5d MK IV, and a 70-200 f2.8 with a couple different filters depending on weather. That set up has worked well from Baja to Alaska. I've never needed a longer zoom, maybe something a bit less on the lower end, but I want the faster 2.8 for this time of year. The unpredictability of the trips makes switching lenes an example of frustration more than anything else. Either way you go good luck.

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    • #17
      SigSauerP226
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Sep 2007
      • 876

      I didn’t see a comment about the camera equipment, but this is a question I ask at times for similar reasons. I always carry and sometimes I want to make sure it’s ok not for carrying at a location, but I don’t like leaving the damn gun in the car in this theft and burg ridden state. Seems absolutely retarded to have a vetted trusted person leave a firearm in a car where any dip**** can potentially steal it, versus keeping it with the one person who should have it.

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      • #18
        Mytmoss
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 812

        Originally posted by SigSauerP226
        I didn’t see a comment about the camera equipment, but this is a question I ask at times for similar reasons. I always carry and sometimes I want to make sure it’s ok not for carrying at a location, but I don’t like leaving the damn gun in the car in this theft and burg ridden state. Seems absolutely retarded to have a vetted trusted person leave a firearm in a car where any dip**** can potentially steal it, versus keeping it with the one person who should have it.
        No argument from me there.

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        • #19
          morrcarr67
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          • Jul 2010
          • 15021

          Originally posted by TrappedinCalifornia
          Guys... Remember... "Harbor Seal," "Whale," and "Whale Watching" have different meanings in pimp language than what you're referring to. In pimp language, you bring a "gun," not a "firearm," for those and engaging in such activities. 😏
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          • #20
            Spyder
            CGN Contributor
            • Mar 2008
            • 17040

            Originally posted by BigPimping
            I have no idea why you would even need to carry a firearm on a whale watching trip? Are there very many harbor seals or whales that are that vicious?
            That sounds like you'd vote for Feinstein.

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            • #21
              CCWholder
              Junior Member
              • Jan 2014
              • 20

              On occasion I've been conflicted about removing my CCW firearm because a business posts NO FIREARMS at the entrance. Here's the deal, if I remove it from my IWB holster and leave it in my vehicle it would be my luck that my cars is broken into and my loaded gun stolen. Now I have to report it stolen to PD and that it is loaded. I could lose my CCW permit permanently because of something like this.
              On the other hand, I have a gun concealed on my person that no one would ever know was there (and I've carried concealed for 40+ years and not a single person has ever known I was carrying).

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              • #22
                SigSauerP226
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Sep 2007
                • 876

                As long as it’s not prohibited by law, I pay no attention to the “No Gun” signs. No one should know I’m carrying but if some crazy reason they find out, it’s my understanding they can only ask you to leave.

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                • #23
                  RickD427
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 9264

                  Originally posted by SigSauerP226
                  As long as it’s not prohibited by law, I pay no attention to the “No Gun” signs. No one should know I’m carrying but if some crazy reason they find out, it’s my understanding they can only ask you to leave.
                  Please see my posting above.

                  Bringing a firearm (concealed or not) aboard the whale-watching boat is illegal, and as a federal crime, you actually serve the sentence resulting from the crime.
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                  • #24
                    BillSmith
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2017
                    • 546

                    Listen to RickD. While I am not a legal beagle, I have spent time in a Holiday Inn Express but, more importantly, I have owned a US documented vessel. I've read with interest the law as it pertains to this specific subject.
                    Sometimes a gun is just a gun.

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                    • #25
                      Tripplet918
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2022
                      • 901

                      Navigating the specifics of carrying a concealed weapon (CCW) on a charter boat with a Los Angeles permit can be tricky. Generally, California law allows CCW permit holders to carry their firearms in most public places, but there are exceptions and additional regulations that might apply to specific locations like charter boats.

                      For instance, some charter companies might have their own policies prohibiting firearms on board, regardless of your permit status. Additionally, federal maritime laws and regulations could also come into play, potentially restricting the carrying of firearms on certain waters.

                      It's always best to check with the specific charter company and review any relevant federal and state regulations before bringing a weapon on board.

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                      • #26
                        Citadelgrad87
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 16892

                        Originally posted by Tripplet918
                        Navigating the specifics of carrying a concealed weapon (CCW) on a charter boat with a Los Angeles permit can be tricky. Generally, California law allows CCW permit holders to carry their firearms in most public places, but there are exceptions and additional regulations that might apply to specific locations like charter boats.

                        For instance, some charter companies might have their own policies prohibiting firearms on board, regardless of your permit status. Additionally, federal maritime laws and regulations could also come into play, potentially restricting the carrying of firearms on certain waters.

                        It's always best to check with the specific charter company and review any relevant federal and state regulations before bringing a weapon on board.
                        Their regulations have no bearing on the law.

                        That said, the question was answered long ago, there are FEDERAL regs regarding carrying on a commercial vessel.
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                        • #27
                          SigSauerP226
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 876

                          Originally posted by RickD427

                          Please see my posting above.

                          Bringing a firearm (concealed or not) aboard the whale-watching boat is illegal, and as a federal crime, you actually serve the sentence resulting from the crime.
                          I was referring to the post above mine about business who post No Guns without any legal backing. I wasn’t referring to the whale watching boats and obviously it being a federal crime would make it illegal. I was thinking more like the local coffee shop or some such business.

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                          • #28
                            BigPimping
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 21443

                            Those must be some pretty ferocious whales.
                            Last edited by BigPimping; 12-08-2024, 6:08 PM.
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                            • #29
                              BigPimping
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 21443

                              Originally posted by Mytmoss

                              I guess you didnt see my post that I will be carrying to/from boat 8K worth of camera equipment. I do not need the firearm on the boat.
                              I guess the 150 feet from the parking lot to the boat dock is pretty hazardous.
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                              • #30
                                L.A. Saiga
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2012
                                • 1780

                                Originally posted by Mytmoss
                                I cannot find a definitive answer as to whether you can, with a CCW permit, conceal carry on a whale-watching boat that does not leave US waters, i.e., a 2-hour outing. Does anyone know? Thank you in advance

                                Well, be careful not to drop it overboard. I heard about a guy who lost a few firearms in a boating accident.
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