Ammo Bros Warning

[chokeyourself!]

I've never had a problem with these guy's, that's my #1 spot to buy guns and ammo.

[apbrian112]

i've only done transfers at the store (bought ammo at gun shows too) and haven't had a problem... but if this is true, then that sucks... if that's the price they sell it at w/o the sight then that's their business and since there are plenty of dealers who sell stag uppers at below MSRP/MAP it's up to the consumer to decide where to purchase their upper. however, if the upper was marked and sold as a "STAG 2HT" upper, then it should have included the rear sight. just my .02.

[chickenfried]

Well the friend got the sight. But we still don't know the details of the sale. If it was described as a 2HT minus rear sight, kosher in my book. If sold as a 2ht but no mention made that the sights were taken off. Well that's shady even if it got resolved later. Same as not including all the magazines that were shipped with a particular model firearm hoping the customer doesn't know how many are supposed to come with it.

[GartenZwerge]

If you go to a dealership to buy a car off the showroom floor, see that there's no stereo and paid an agreed price, than you made a deal. Coming back to said dealer and demanding that it should have came with a stereo when such an item should clearly be evident upon delivery is ignorant. The car (or the upper in this case) wasn't ordered from some mysterious wizard sight unseen, it was handled, inspected, bargained over, agreed on price and the buyer took hand delivery.

[/B]

I had a car dealer demand i bring my car back so they could uninstall parts...um no?

[tenpercentfirearms]

You don't have to agree with me, but many vendors sell 2HTs without the sights for a lower price. You can argue that they should call it something else all you want, but if someone calls it a 2HT without the rear sight, you still know what it is.

Personally, I just sell the 2HT as it is supplied from the factory and if the guy wants something else, I horse trade. Well, not really a horse since some people like to be real technical. So I guess I mean I like to another rear sight trade.

[accordingtoome]

Their prices seem really high on most stuff.. but hey, you have to pay rent.

[Prc329]

Except for maybe 10% and a couple of other guys like Pete with Legal Transfers there prices usually work out to what you would pay with shipping on larger items.

Somethings I refuse to buy there because it is just so damn expensive period. Ammo, unless I am dead tired and don't feel like sitting in my garage for an hour at 10pm I'll buy from them. There price on a can of plinking 308 for my M14 was pretty good. They are the only cats I have found FGMM in 175g in the local area. Turners selection is a joke in this area. Once in a blue moon they get BH. Some of there guns are overpriced. There AK price seems a bit high last time I asked but they will match prices as well as they guarantee there reloads and will take them back if you don't like them.

They were also the only people in the area that was able to get me a 700 SPS Varmint in 308. Turners had 2 "on order" but never came threw, The Stockade couldn't find one and would have cost the same to go threw an out of state dealer. Dustin ordered it and matched Turners price.

I've heard a couple of horror stories but they have stepped up and fixed the situation. So they keep there Prc329's approval rating.

[bobfried]

I had a car dealer demand i bring my car back so they could uninstall parts...um no?

That doesn't even make sense. And how on earth did you arrive at that comment from my comment?

I was saying more along the line:

You go back to the dealer because you though that a car you just bought and took home should come with a leather interior. Even though you bought a car on the lot, inspected it before hand and took delivery of it the same day. Along the way you looked at it a few time, drove it once, fingered it incessantly, haggle over the price and finally agreed to buy the car. What do you think the dealer would do when he sees you coming back? And say you took it to small claims court, what do you think the judge would say?

That was my point, I'm not even sure how you arrive at your comment, really does puzzle me greatly.

[bobfried]

I will stick to one single over simplistic answer.
........You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure this out.

To me this is just more AMMO BROS BS. I have personally seen there shaddiness as have others. I have posted about them as have others.

And yes I do understand myself perfectly , thank you.

Your absolutely right, that is how it is advertised and sold by Stag.

But AB is NOT Stag nor do they claim to be. You are buying it from AB in person and from their inventory, not Stag. I still don't think you understood that point. You buy something from a store and the store over charges you, that doesn't mean nor does it ever will that the manufacturer is responsible. My point is quite clear, the person did not buy it from Stag, they bought an item from AB. It's the exact same case where I see people rave about how they bought a Ruger 22/45 for $150 more than what I paid. The shop they bought it from isn't particularly heinous, they are doing business. It just happens that the shop I choose to frequent charges little mark up and rely on good will rather than pure profit to stay in business.

I don't go on car dealerships and tell people that I just bought the exact same car they bought $18,000 (actual example, I paid $47,500 OTD and all the people I met in the car club I subsequently joined paid over $65,000 for their's out the door with the exact same options or less) less than what they're going to pay out the door. It's the buyer's job to find out if they're getting a good deal, not the business to make sure that they do.

Again, it's between AB and the buyer. Stag has nothing to do with the transaction.

And yes I do agree with you, I have seen a few "strange" things take place at AB. As a matter of fact I buy nothing from them but ammo, which they have a great reputation for along with awesome prices. I have never recommended them to anyone for anything other than ammo and ammo only. For everything else I only recommend Ade's.

[ar15barrels]

I'm not even sure how you arrive at your comment, really does puzzle me greatly.

I think that perhaps he actually HAD a dealer tell him to bring a car back because it had some option that was not on the sales order and therefore not charged for because some salesman screwed up.

In the gunshop analogy, they accidentally left an aimpoint in the box with the Stag 2HT upper and they want the aimpoint back.

[Addax]

You don't have to agree with me, but many vendors sell 2HTs without the sights for a lower price. You can argue that they should call it something else all you want, but if someone calls it a 2HT without the rear sight, you still know what it is.

Personally, I just sell the 2HT as it is supplied from the factory and if the guy wants something else, I horse trade. Well, not really a horse since some people like to be real technical. So I guess I mean I like to another rear sight trade.

This makes sense Wes.

If I wanted a 2HT, and I do not really need the rear sight and I would like the option of picking up this upper minus the sight at a lower cost.

[justinLB]

Let me start be saying that I AGREE the Ammo Bros are knowledgeable, helpful, and polite to those just learning of OLL's, an extremely rare find in any gun store today. I personally have spent MANY paychecks there.
I am warning people to make sure they get all the accessories they pay for. The Stag uppers are also supposed to include an M-16 operators manual and those are also pulled and sold separately, but I suppose that the manual is not included in the price of their uppers.
My friend paid them $750 and they never said a word about it not having a rear sight. He came to my house and I noticed there was no rear sight and he had to call them and tell them for that price it is supposed to come with the rear sight and Ergo grip panels. He was given a MI sight and Ergo grips with no further hassle.
It just seems that if you don't know about the rear sight they aren't going to tell you. If I hadn't of told me friend about the sight he would of went back that night and bought the MI sight for another $100 bucks!!

[chickenfried]

How could you not consider this practice shady? Doesn't sound like a business on the "up and up" or a "group of stand up" guys to me. How is this any different than the example I gave, not including all the magazines that shipped with a firearm hoping the customer doesn't know how many are supposed to be included? I'd stick with people that will transfer OLL and not attempt to get away with petty little rip offs they think people won't notice.

[gn3hz3ku1*]

tankerman.. I have delt with prc many times he is far from shady or whitewashing anything...

Your previous post used mighty strong words and now you are trying to white wash the situation.

Picking up your lowers huh, sounds like it would have been a perfect time to speak with Dustin.............. if you had wanted to.

Wonder what the manufacturer would think?

Shady.

[pklin1297]

Still would like to hear from Ammo Bros to see what they have to say in regards to this situation. They are owed that courtesy before people here start pinning the "gunshop who cheats people" button on them, as they have always had good history with people here and over at Arfcom.