Ammo Bros Warning

[tankerman]

If the dude ordered a particular item and it comes with the said accessories, then it does not matter what he paid for the upper, he still got less than what was agreed to.

Like picking out a car at a dealership, paying for it, but when you get in to go home the stereos been yanked outgone. According to your logic that would be acceptable if "you paid less" (got a deal).

I think first we need to see what JustinLB's friend paid for the upper. Like I said if it was discounted then what is the problem? No need to hear Ammo Bros side of the story.

[bobfried]

If the dude ordered a particular item and it comes with the said accessories, then it does not matter what he paid for the upper, he still got less than what was agreed to.

Like picking out a car at a dealership, paying for it, but when you get in to go home the stereos been yanked outgone. According to your logic that would be acceptable if "you paid less" (got a deal).

There's the rub.

He didn't order anything, he bought it "off the showroom floor" so to speak. This is where many people in this thread seem to demonize AB without throughly reviewing the situation. The example above is grossly skewed and is just plain wrong, it should be as follow:

If you go to a dealership to buy a car off the showroom floor, see that there's no stereo and paid an agreed price, than you made a deal. Coming back to said dealer and demanding that it should have came with a stereo when such an item should clearly be evident upon delivery is ignorant. The car (or the upper in this case) wasn't ordered from some mysterious wizard sight unseen, it was handled, inspected, bargained over, agreed on price and the buyer took hand delivery.

This is yet another sign of consumer gross negligence. The worst cases of this is the recent scathes of ARM going to default because the home buyers said they never knew a Mortgage could have it's Rates Adjusted. They of course completely leave out the fact that an ARM stands for an Adjustable Rate Mortgage.

Going back to this case, the buyer knew exactly what they were buying, went home, talked to some friend about a completely unrelated purchase and developed a sense of entitlement. Just because you gut a BUIS off of a dealer ordering it online somewhere, doesn't mean it will automatically come with one from a retail store. It doesn't matter if the guy paid $100 or $1,000; he made a deal IN PERSON knowing full well the terms of the deal.

The only situation where I would side with the OP in this case is if the buyer was shown a compelte Stag upper with the BUIS than they swapped another one without when they gave them the box. But I doubt that's the case, I don't know of any enthusiast that wouldn't immediately finger f*** an upper the moment they pay for it.

Caveat Emptor!

[justinLB]

Out the door it was $750

[Prc329]

$750 for the upper or complete rifle?

[ar15barrels]

Out the door it was $750

List price is $695 for a 2HT including the ARMS #40
Add CA sales tax (8.25%) of $57.34
Grand total is 752.34

Something is amiss here.

[HKROB]

List price is $695 for a 2HT including the ARMS #40
Add CA sales tax (8.25%) of $57.34
Grand total is 752.34

Something is amiss here.

One of the guys I work with got that same upper (from ammo bros) in late 2006 for $695 out the door with no rear sight .

[tankerman]

If you buy a buy a Quarter Pounder and it isn't a Q/P, and you shouldn't call it one.

If you are selling a Stag 2H-T and it doesn't have the rear sight on it and Stag says that model comes with one, then don't call it a 2H-T.

Rub? Or scam?

Nice try at sensationalism

There's the rub.

He didn't order anything, he bought it "off the showroom floor" so to speak. This is where many people in this thread seem to demonize AB without throughly reviewing the situation. The example above is grossly skewed and is just plain wrong, it should be as follow:

If you go to a dealership to buy a car off the showroom floor, see that there's no stereo and paid an agreed price, than you made a deal. Coming back to said dealer and demanding that it should have came with a stereo when such an item should clearly be evident upon delivery is ignorant. The car (or the upper in this case) wasn't ordered from some mysterious wizard sight unseen, it was handled, inspected, bargained over, agreed on price and the buyer took hand delivery.

This is yet another sign of consumer gross negligence. The worst cases of this is the recent scathes of ARM going to default because the home buyers said they never knew a Mortgage could have it's Rates Adjusted. They of course completely leave out the fact that an ARM stands for an Adjustable Rate Mortgage.

Going back to this case, the buyer knew exactly what they were buying, went home, talked to some friend about a completely unrelated purchase and developed a sense of entitlement. Just because you gut a BUIS off of a dealer ordering it online somewhere, doesn't mean it will automatically come with one from a retail store. It doesn't matter if the guy paid $100 or $1,000; he made a deal IN PERSON knowing full well the terms of the deal.

The only situation where I would side with the OP in this case is if the buyer was shown a compelte Stag upper with the BUIS than they swapped another one without when they gave them the box. But I doubt that's the case, I don't know of any enthusiast that wouldn't immediately finger f*** an upper the moment they pay for it.

Caveat Emptor!

[ar15barrels]

One of the guys I work with got that same upper (from ammo bros) in late 2006 for $695 out the door with no rear sight .

That would be about right.
Deduct about $50 for the sight and add $50 worth of sales tax.

[gn3hz3ku1*]

hmm one of the posters made a valid pt.. don't call it a 2ht if ur taking parts of.....

[Prc329]

They did fix it correct? BTW I was there today and yeah the Stags did not have rear sights. They also didn't have any ARMS rear sights for sale. They did have a couple with carry handles for a good price. I forget how much but I remember thinking it was a fair price. I didn't get a chance to talk to Dustin about it because I was a little busy picking up my lowers and checking out a Sig 556 that was on display, bullet button and all

[HKROB]

They did fix it correct? BTW I was there today and yeah the Stags did not have rear sights. They also didn't have any ARMS rear sights for sale. They did have a couple with carry handles for a good price. I forget how much but I remember thinking it was a fair price. I didn't get a chance to talk to Dustin about it because I was a little busy picking up my lowers and checking out a Sig 556 that was on display, bullet button and all

What was the price on the Sig 556.

[glk-21]

sneaky!!!

[Hoop]

Out the door it was $750

Holy ****.

I don't mind paying a premium for something if it's a little custom - say different handguards, barrel, what have you - but...

I'm sure some of the vendors on this site could've gotten you one for much less than that shipped to your door

[tankerman]

They did fix it correct? BTW I was there today and yeah the Stags did not have rear sights. They also didn't have any ARMS rear sights for sale. They did have a couple with carry handles for a good price. I forget how much but I remember thinking it was a fair price. I didn't get a chance to talk to Dustin about it because I was a little busy picking up my lowers and checking out a Sig 556 that was on display, bullet button and all

Your previous post used mighty strong words and now you are trying to white wash the situation.

Picking up your lowers huh, sounds like it would have been a perfect time to speak with Dustin.............. if you had wanted to.

Wonder what the manufacturer would think?

Shady.

[tenpercentfirearms]

The manufacturer doesn't give a damn. They collect the money, they go out the shipping door, and they are happy.

A 2HT is still a 2HT whether I take the sight off it or not.

Lets not get all petty and technical on this by discussing what should or shouldn't come on the gun or what the name is...yada, yada, yada.

It is simple. Is it clear you are not buying an upper without a rear sight? If it is clear it does not come with the rear sight when you purchase it, then it really wouldn't matter what you paid for it as you knowingly and willingly paid whatever price you paid without a rear sight.

If Ammo Bros is taking off the sights and selling them for $695 still, as long as they are fully disclosing this to the customer, they are not doing anything wrong. Many consumers may not like it, but that is why you then choose not to business there or you tell them, "I can get it with a sight on it for the same price from Ten Percent Firearms, but I would rather buy it here so I don't have to wait two days for it to show up." If they say no, move on.

I have done a ton of business with PRC329 and I mean a ton. If he says he didn't get a chance to talk to him, I believe him. Even if he is padding it, I still don't care and will still evaluate this on what Ammo Bros says and hold nothing against PRC329.

Lets stop the speculation and beating around the bush. This topic shouldn't be that hard. Hell, why doesn't anyone just call them and ask them what the deal is?