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  • sdkelly85
    Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 266

    Import question.... Isreal

    My dad is goin to israel in a couple weeks. I was wondering if it was legal for him to purchase/ import some type of weapon back to California. If not is there anything cool he could bring back. Thank you!
    Last edited by sdkelly85; 04-08-2012, 12:15 PM.
  • #2
    DemocracyEnaction
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 1270

    Ask Isreal I doubt they will let a weapon on a plane. In or Out.
    "Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth; Socialism is the equal distribution of poverty ... Communism is socialism with a gun at your back." - Sir Winston Churchill

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    • #3
      Capybara
      CGSSA Coordinator
      CGN Contributor
      • Feb 2012
      • 15605

      Isreal? Yes, it is real.
      Uh, how about Israel?

      There would be an incredible amount of hoops he would have to go through and do it all through a BATF approved importing company. That's just on our end, he would also face a lot of political, legal and monetary hoops in Israel.
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      • #4
        nick562
        Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 154

        it cost ~3000 for a import licences but it can be done

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        • #5
          CAL.BAR
          CGSSA OC Chapter Leader
          • Nov 2007
          • 5632

          You have a better chance of having Shimone Perez carry it back for you. (lol)

          NO. importing firearms from out of country is very hard and requires multiple licenses and clearances. Further, "foreign assault rifles" like the UZI, and Tavor are strictly banned under Federal law.

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          • #6
            wash
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2007
            • 9011

            There are importation companies out there that mostly deal with antiques and very valuable guns.

            Parts will be easier but still tricky.

            If you are going there in person and you've got your eye on certain things before you go, there may be ways to avoid some of these hassles but I'll let you figure that out.
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            • #7
              fighterpilot562
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              • Mar 2012
              • 47071

              I think it would be very very hard and cost a lot to bring over a weapon. Both countries need to approve it and so forth

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              • #8
                helpme
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 669

                I'm not gonna lie, I didn't read any of your post.

                With the above being said, you should probably start whatever process you're attempting to undertake by learning how to correctly spell ISRAEL.

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                • #9
                  Alan Block
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 3119

                  Ask him to bring you a T'filin

                  They are very stylish now.

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                  • #10
                    cdtx2001
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 6630

                    Originally posted by helpme
                    I'm not gonna lie, I didn't read any of your post.

                    With the above being said, you should probably start whatever process you're attempting to undertake by learning how to correctly spell ISRAEL.
                    Maybe his import question is real.
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                    • #11
                      almaster666
                      Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 403

                      Israel has restrictive gun laws:



                      "Israel
                      It is forbidden in Israel to own any kind of firearm, including air pistols and rifles, without a firearms license. Israel Defense Forces officers honorably discharged with the rank of non-commissioned officer, reservists honorably discharged with the rank of regimental commander, ex-special forces enlisted men, retired police officers with the rank of sergeant, retired prison guards with the rank of squadron commander, licensed public transportation drivers transporting a minimum of five people, and full-time dealers of jewellery or large sums of cash or valuables, Civil Guard volunteers, and residents of militarily strategic buffer zones considered essential to state security are eligible for licenses allowing them to possess one handgun. Reservists honorably discharged with the rank of regimental commander are also eligible for licences allowing them to possess one rifle. Licensed hunters may possess one shotgun, and licensed animal-control officers are allowed to possess two rifles. Civil Guard snipers may possess one rifle. To legally own a gun as a souvenir, prize, inheritance, or award of appreciation from the military, an individual must first present proper documentation that they are about to receive it. Permits for gun collectors are extremely rare, and typically only given to ex-high ranking officers. To obtain a gun license, an applicant must be at least 21 years old and a resident of Israel for at least three consecutive years, have no criminal record, be in good health, have no history of mental illness, pass a weapons-training course, and demonstrate a basic knowledge of spoken and written Hebrew. Gun licenses must be renewed every three years. Firearms permits are given only for personal use, not for business in the firearms sale. Gun owners may purchase a maximum of fifty rounds a year, except for those shot at firing ranges.
                      Residents of Israeli settlements in the West Bank are issued assault rifles and ammunition by the army, and are given civil defense training. However, the rifles and munitions are property of the army, and may be confiscated at any time.
                      Members of officially recognized shooting clubs (practical shooting, Olympic shooting) are eligible for personal licenses allowing them to possess additional firearms (small bore rifles, handguns, air rifles and air pistols) after demonstrating a need and fulfilling minimum membership time and activity requirements. Unlicensed individuals are allowed supervised use of pistols at firing ranges. Following a number of cases of firearm-related suicides at firing ranges, private individuals who do not own firearms are required to present a certificate of good conduct and a physician's health declaration in order to shoot at commercial firing ranges.
                      Self-defense firearms may be carried in public, concealed or openly. Israel is notable for being a country with few places where firearms are off limits to licensed individuals (private premises, some government offices and institutions, courts).
                      In addition to private licenses of firearms, organizations can issue carry licenses to their members for activity related to that organization (e.g. security companies, shooting clubs, other workplaces).
                      Soldiers are allowed to carry their personal weapons and ammunition while on furlough during active service, uniformed or in civilian clothing.
                      There are about 200,000 private citizens and 154,000 security guards licensed to carry firearms. Another 34,000 Israelis who were previously licensed own guns illegally due to their failure to renew their gun license.[20][21]
                      The regulation for gun ownership became stricter following the assassination of Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin in 1995. Gun ownership in Israel is considered a privilege and not a right."

                      Not to mention the fact that moving guns from one country to another is a very big deal, there are many legal hoops to jump through

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                      • #12
                        glockman19
                        Banned
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 10486

                        No on the firearm...but...he may be able to get some IMI black tip AP Rifle ammo in .223, .762 & .30-06.

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                        • #13
                          Capybara
                          CGSSA Coordinator
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 15605

                          Almaster, thanks for expanding on those hoops I mentioned. Exporting and importing arms is a very tough thing to do that takes lots of money and time to lubricate the process.
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                          • #14
                            sdkelly85
                            Member
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 266

                            Thanks guys.... I think I stick with a t-shirt.

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                            • #15
                              Nodda Duma
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 3455

                              A good gift would be a cross carved in Bethlehem from olive wood. I suppose you could buy those off the internet but hey. He can buy one in Ben Gurion airport while he's waiting for his plane.

                              Tell him don't send important info via email, and to change his passwords when he returns to the US. Keep a his passport on him or at least a copy of his passport on him at all times.

                              If he's staying in Tel Aviv, he should visit Joppa.. one of the oldest harbor cities in the world.

                              Also tell him to get a bus tour to Jerusalem if he can spare a day. The hotel can help him. Religious or no, it is rich in history. He can pick up a nice gift in Old Jerusalem (but I would only buy from the shop the guide recommends).

                              Pray for him if he has to drive. If he does and survives, you will notice he is more aggressive on the road when he returns.

                              There's a really nice shop called Michal Negrin in Ben Gurion airport where he can get some awesome jewelry / clothing for the women in his life. The women who work there are very helpful (and good looking).

                              p.s. tell him to take a camera and take lots of photos.
                              Last edited by Nodda Duma; 04-10-2012, 7:33 PM.
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