Seeking advice on unlicensed loaded carry

[Meety Peety]

Yea, I really think the biggest issue she would have would be if/when the time came that she had to actually use it. Granted, it may save her life.. but it wouldn't save her from sitting in a jail cell and paying fines out the ***. It's pretty amazing what someone can get away with just being related to a cop (And not even a high ranking one). My brother in law was DUI and ran a stop sign, cops tried to pull him over and he took off. Ended up on a "high speed chase" which was only "high speed" until he smashed into a power transformer that knocked out the power to 75% of the town (Yes, its small). Needless to say, he spent the night at the hospital for minor cuts and bruises and nothing else ever came of it.. because his daddy was a retired cop. Not even active anymore.

[Supertac916]

The physicians and hospital administrators I know can't carry their firearms into the hospital, even with their LTC's without risking their jobs. They keep them in their cars in Gun Vaults locked down to the trunks of their cars. If she's changing or someone happens to see the firearm in her purse and reports her to administration. She'll be in quite a bit of trouble...

[SocomM4]

Like I said before from first hand experience, unless she was drunk driving a school bus through a retirement home on Easter Sunday butt nekked with a crack pipe in one hand and this officers pistol in the other, she will never be pulled over and searched in the same town .The simple truth is: Cops don't pull over and harass their cop buddy's Girlfriend/wives .
You might not like it, you might want to post how wrong it is and cite this or that penal code, and say I'm crazy, but that's the way it is.In a smaller town that is.

That being said, I doubt it would be hard for her to get a permit. And follow the rules everyone else has to.

[GrizzlyGuy]

For loans between people who know each other, if the firearm is a handgun, the person being lent the handgun needs a HSC.

Yup, and if she doesn't have an HSC then the LEO boyfriend is also breaking the law by making the illegal loan.

[SanPedroShooter]

Long Beach isnt exactly a small town... They have about 1000 officers in their deparment. Maybe she can carry a card or get a bumper sticker that says 'cops girlfriend'.

[DannyInSoCal]

If she's stupid enough to risk her future based on what he "told" her to do -

Then she can't complain when her illegal activities lead her into the crapper...

[fighterpilot562]

she stupid for carrying and he is stupid for letting her

[MudCamper]

WTH? She is breaking at least 2 laws. I am amazed at all the "it's legal to break the law if a cop tells you it's OK" BS responses. This thread is pure insanity.

[Hilldweller]

Ami I wrong or didn't they add this item recently???

PENAL CODE
SECTION 25300

25300. (a) A person commits criminal possession of a firearm when
the person carries a firearm in a public place or on any public
street while masked so as to hide the person's identity.
(b) Criminal possession of a firearm is punishable by imprisonment
pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170 or by imprisonment in a
county jail not to exceed one year.
(c) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any of the following:
(1) A peace officer in performance of the officer's duties.
(2) A full-time paid peace officer of another state or the federal
government who is carrying out official duties while in this state.
(3) Any person summoned by any of the officers enumerated in
paragraph (1) or (2) to assist in making an arrest or preserving the
peace while that person is actually engaged in assisting that
officer.
(4) The possession of an unloaded firearm or a firearm loaded with
blank ammunition by an authorized participant in, or while
rehearsing for, a motion picture, television, video production,
entertainment event, entertainment activity, or lawfully organized
and conducted activity when the participant lawfully uses the firearm
as part of that production, event, or activity.
(5) The possession of a firearm by a licensed hunter while
actually engaged in lawful hunting, or while going directly to or
returning directly from the hunting expedition.
(6) The possession of a firearm by the wife, girlfriend,
or significant other of any active duty or reserve law enforcement officer
whereas that officer instructed them to do so.


Total BS. " My co worker just told me that she bought a gun and was being forced to carry it by her boyfriend. I asked her for details since she is a good friend of mine and I didn't want her to get into any legal troubles. Apparently her boyfriend is LEO and the gun in question is his."

[paul0660]

Loaded and concealed, no permit, not registered to her=felony.

[rudigan]

Ami I wrong or didn't they add this item recently???

PENAL CODE
SECTION 25300

25300. (a) A person commits criminal possession of a firearm when
the person carries a firearm in a public place or on any public
street while masked so as to hide the person's identity.
(b) Criminal possession of a firearm is punishable by imprisonment
pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170 or by imprisonment in a
county jail not to exceed one year.
(c) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any of the following:
(1) A peace officer in performance of the officer's duties.
(2) A full-time paid peace officer of another state or the federal
government who is carrying out official duties while in this state.
(3) Any person summoned by any of the officers enumerated in
paragraph (1) or (2) to assist in making an arrest or preserving the
peace while that person is actually engaged in assisting that
officer.
(4) The possession of an unloaded firearm or a firearm loaded with
blank ammunition by an authorized participant in, or while
rehearsing for, a motion picture, television, video production,
entertainment event, entertainment activity, or lawfully organized
and conducted activity when the participant lawfully uses the firearm
as part of that production, event, or activity.
(5) The possession of a firearm by a licensed hunter while
actually engaged in lawful hunting, or while going directly to or
returning directly from the hunting expedition.
(6) The possession of a firearm by the wife, girlfriend,
or significant other of any active duty or reserve law enforcement officer
whereas that officer instructed them to do so.


Total BS. " My co worker just told me that she bought a gun and was being forced to carry it by her boyfriend. I asked her for details since she is a good friend of mine and I didn't want her to get into any legal troubles. Apparently her boyfriend is LEO and the gun in question is his."

LOL!

[Mata]

My co worker just told me that she bought a gun and was being forced to carry it by her boyfriend. I asked her for details since she is a good friend of mine and I didn't want her to get into any legal troubles. Apparently her boyfriend is LEO and the gun in question is his. I advised my friend not to do it since she does not have a CCW permit. I just wanted to make sure I gave her correct advice. Any peace officers that can chime in would be greatly appreciated. Please no LEO bashing, thank you in advance.

Some are more equal than others.
That said, she should do it, it's not a fair law anyway.

[USMC 82-86]

I have met several people who have carried W/O a permit for around 20 years. Are they breaking the law? Yes. Do they care? No. Their response to me is they will take their chances if they end up in court. They just don't care to take their chances on the street. One of those who admits to carrying W/O a permit works at a gun shop and has done so for over 25 years. I thought I heard him wrong when he mentioned this to a female customer. I had a LTC in S.C. and carried all the time. I don't have a permit here and I don't carry a gun. I hope the process will change after a new Sheriff is in office.

[Hopalong]

Boyfriend is advising her to break the law?

Bad advise, he should know better.

[badicedog]

Apparently she has now recanted her story after I informed her that she was breaking the law and "my BF is cop" is not an excuse. So.. Now she only carries it while her BF is present. Yeah, right! I call BS on that one. She is a good friend but ultimately it's her life, her choices.