Shrike 5.56 legality????

[SouthCoastTargets]

I am wondering if the Shrike AR-15 upper receiver is legal in the state of california. basically for those of you who don't know what it is, the Shrike is an upper receiver that can drop onto an AR-15 lower in seconds and converts it to a belt fed firearm, whats really cool is that it can still accept magazines. i would think that so long as the belt is no longer than 10 rnds (unless it was in your possession before the ban) and the lower had a bullet button (because you can still use a magazine) on it this would be legal right? help me out.

here is a video of it in action on a full auto lower (serious gun porn alert)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYw4tEGqtIk

if this is legal in CA (or could in some way be made legal if its not) and was selling for somewhere between $1200 to $1500, would you want one?

[h0use]

wow thats neat.

[Sinister_1]

Looks like fun?.....its illegal.

[LikeAllGuns]

That Is bad to the bone.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MrExel17]

I want one! Wait I live in CA, never-mind!

[Turo]

Looks like fun?.....its illegal.

Cite or gtfo.

The OP isn't talking about the full auto lower, obviously that's not CA legal to own. The OP is talking about the beltfed upper, which by nature is not illegal.
I'm not sure how the magazine lock works with the beltfed, but I know that lots of people shoot beltfed guns in CA all the time.

[Spaceghost]

I think getting your hands on vaporware is the bigger dilemma...

[Beelzy]

I think getting your hands on vaporware is the bigger dilemma...

LOL!....No doubt. I read on another Forum that a chap finally got his unit after a 7 year wait.

[Beelzy]

I think getting your hands on vaporware is the bigger dilemma...

LOL!....No doubt. I read on another Forum that a chap finally got his unit after a 7 year wait.


(PS. It's legal as long the belts fed to it are 10rds or less)

[SouthCoastTargets]

Cite or gtfo.

The OP isn't talking about the full auto lower, obviously that's not CA legal to own. The OP is talking about the beltfed upper, which by nature is not illegal.
I'm not sure how the magazine lock works with the beltfed, but I know that lots of people shoot beltfed guns in CA all the time.

yeah, not talking about the lower, just the upper. these uppers drop onto full auto lowers (NFA) or semi auto lowers (legal in most states, including CA so long as its "neutered") without any modifications.

my question is, is putting this upper on a CA lower illegal? is there a way to do it legally? would i have to modify it in some way because of some evil feature or something.

i appreciate the enthusiasm, these things are bad-***, but i am looking for a serious answer here

[Freagan]

10 round belts don't sound as much fun

[Peter.Steele]

Looks like fun?.....its illegal.

Cite or gtfo.

The OP isn't talking about the full auto lower, obviously that's not CA legal to own. The OP is talking about the beltfed upper, which by nature is not illegal.
I'm not sure how the magazine lock works with the beltfed, but I know that lots of people shoot beltfed guns in CA all the time.

Turo, you know that whoosh! sound you heard a couple minutes ago, from somewhere directly above you ... ?

[nick]

Sadly, I'll have to go with illegal. While the bullet button allows you to block the release of the mags, it doesn't block the release of the belt. However, you can go featureless, in which case I don't see a legal issue.

[dsmoot]

Sadly, I'll have to go with illegal. While the bullet button allows you to block the release of the mags, it doesn't block the release of the belt. However, you can go featureless, in which case I don't see a legal issue.

I would have to agree, with sb23 features you would probably need some kind of lock to keep the belt from being removed after the last round. But a featureless rifle should be good to go.

[SouthCoastTargets]

Sadly, I'll have to go with illegal. While the bullet button allows you to block the release of the mags, it doesn't block the release of the belt. However, you can go featureless, in which case I don't see a legal issue.

what about modifying it so that in order to put a fresh belt in you had to use a "tool". something similar to a bullet button type of design?

i should clarify that im not buying a shrike, i am working with a guy to design a shrike alternative (there are tons of problems with the shrike, from availability to price, to function.) most of our sales will be in free states, however i want to make a california legal version, hence why i was asking if anybody would want one in the price range i originally quoted. im trying to see if there is a market here, and what it would take to make it possible, i will eventually consult a laywer on this but i wanted to get a general feel for the direction on this project before shelling out some serious cash for a lawyer.