Have you ever shot anyone?

[Waingro]

From this thread I can make the assumptions that almost 90% of the people on this forum are idiots. I have gotten several PM's from serious members expressing their apologizes for most of your behaver and sharing their stories.

Are you all a bunch of slack jawed edited ~rkt88edmo or what? You want to talk about what caliber types are more likely to expand the most when they hit human flesh - but when someone asks 'Have you have shot anyone?' your face turns white with horror?

Yeah - whoever says it is a controversial subject is wrong, I think we all believe that shooting in self defense is okay (I never mentioned taking another humans life). This is a very sensitive subject for many and if you don't want to participate in it then thats just fine with me and everyone else.

For every single poster that made a reply to this topic in a jokingly way should be ashamed of themselves. This is not a joke.

This thread should be closed due to the embarrassment that most members should have.

[lawnrevenge]

From this thread I can make the assumptions that almost 90% of the people on this forum are idiots.

Are you all a bunch of slack jawed edited ~rkt88edmo or what?

oh no he found out our secret!

For every single poster that made a reply to this topic in a jokingly way should be ashamed of themselves. This is not a joke.

Lighten up. You asked a question that is very taboo. I'm surprised you got any valid responses. God forbid we have some fun. I forgot the interweb is for serious business only-my bad.

[4 Brigada]

Waingro? Who are you, are you my buddy, my long lost pal. Did we spend time together in service. Are you my pastor/confesor? My doctor? Do I owe you money? I made the mistake to ask a coworker (at my first job) how much do you make? He asked are you with the IRS? I laughed and said no, he replied IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. DO YOU GET IT NOW or do you need a bigger picture. I will apologize to the other members, because I feel ashamed that a fellow member would insult them that way.

[Waingro]

Waingro? Who are you, are you my buddy, my long lost pal. Did we spend time together in service. Are you my pastor/confesor? My doctor? Do I owe you money? I made the mistake to ask a coworker (at my first job) how much do you make? He asked are you with the IRS? I laughed and said no, he replied IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. DO YOU GET IT NOW or do you need a bigger picture. I will apologize to the other members, because I feel ashamed that a fellow member would insult them that way.

Hey genius - do you know that I did not ask a single person yet asked a community? They were all free to share or not to share? Your part of the 90%.

[rkt88edmo]

Stop the personal attacks and profanity please.

[4 Brigada]

Hey genius, you are the one insulting people cause of the answers your getting. DUH!!! If you dont like the answer dont ask the questions. Call me in about 40 years when you mature enough to have a conversation with me.

[Waingro]

Hey genius, you are the one insulting people cause of the answers your getting. DUH!!! If you dont like the answer dont ask the questions. Call me in about 40 years when you mature enough to have a conversation with me.

I'm 32.

[supersonic]

Not for nothin', but does anyone here realize the movie character OP decided on for his CalGuns name? "WAINGRO" was a sociopath; pathetic; rat;straight-up cold-blooded murderer; rapist; necrophiliac; etc. Basically one of the worst specimens of subhuman scum EVER portrayed on screen. Note that I am simply describing the exact nature of a fictional character, not attacking anyone personally. That being said, I think it speaks volumes, IMHO, about a person that would choose such a "character's" moniker for a forum "handle" in the first place, and then go on to outright INSULT "90%" OF THE CALGUNS COMMUNITY simply because we have mixed feelings about a very sensitive & controversial question that HE brought to the table. For anyone that knows the movie "HEAT" as well as I do, I think his avatar is very prophetic:
Scott

[-hanko]

Not for nothin', but does anyone here realize the movie character OP decided on for his CalGuns name? "WAINGRO" was a sociopath; pathetic; rat;straight-up cold-blooded murderer; rapist; necrophiliac; etc. Basically one of the worst specimens of subhuman scum EVER portrayed on screen. Note that I am simply describing the exact nature of a fictional character, not attacking anyone personally. That being said, I think it speaks volumes, IMHO, about a person that would choose such a "character's" moniker for a forum "handle" in the first place, and then go on to outright INSULT "90%" OF THE CALGUNS COMMUNITY simply because we have mixed feelings about a very sensitive & controversial question that HE brought to the table. For anyone that knows the movie "HEAT" as well as I do, I think his avatar is very prophetic:
Scott

This is the internet. The calguns community has encouraged op by responding to the first post. OP likes to debate online, perhaps because it's easier than face-to-face. If he continues to set the hook with each response, the argument will continue.

-hanko

[Waingro]

Not for nothin', but does anyone here realize the movie character OP decided on for his CalGuns name? "WAINGRO" was a sociopath; pathetic; rat;straight-up cold-blooded murderer; rapist; necrophiliac; etc. Basically one of the worst specimens of subhuman scum EVER portrayed on screen. Note that I am simply describing the exact nature of a fictional character, not attacking anyone personally. That being said, I think it speaks volumes, IMHO, about a person that would choose such a "character's" moniker for a forum "handle" in the first place, and then go on to outright INSULT "90%" OF THE CALGUNS COMMUNITY simply because we have mixed feelings about a very sensitive & controversial question that HE brought to the table. For anyone that knows the movie "HEAT" as well as I do, I think his avatar is very prophetic:
Scott

I bear a very strong resemblance to the character in the movie, my construction crew calls me Waingro for fun. Hence the name. There is a picture of me on here somewhere.

However I do apologize for my previous comments - I posted a logical thread that could help my self, and others in a self defense situation and there is 9 pages of sarcasm, jokes, and debates. I have gotten PM's from members apologizing for the behavior of people that posted in this thread. I am not the debating type - I simply wanted to better my self defense skills, given all the things you guys speak of such as shot placement, remaining calm, etc. I was wondering if certain people could shed some light on the real life encounters they had.

I retract my statement that 90% of the forum are idiots. 90% of the people who posted off-topic, sarcastic, and joking posts are idiots.

This might be a sensitive subject for some, I nor anyone else is twisting your wrist to post in or even look at this thread.

I know I can kill a piece of paper with ear muffs and shooting glasses on. I want to know if there is anything else I should practice to protect my self and my disabled wife.

edit: This thread should be closed since it accomplished absolutely nothing but hostility towards members.

[4 Brigada]

I want to know if there is anything else I should practice to protect my self and my disabled wife.

With that you get help,

1, Call the cops/avoid having to shoot, 2 Situational awareness, 3 Sight picture, 4 Breathing, 5 Trigger control and 6 Follow thru.

[Waingro]

With that you get help,

1, Call the cops/avoid having to shoot, 2 Situational awareness, 3 Sight picture, 4 Breathing, 5 Trigger control and 6 Follow thru.

THANK YOU SIR! I would love to hear more tips like this, different peoples reactions and adrenaline levels, etc. You just dropped it down to 85%!

[lawnrevenge]

I want to know if there is anything else I should practice to protect my self and my disabled wife.

Well if you can put my joking aside (though I am part of the idiot brigade here ) This is a much more direct question that will hopefully get more direct answers and I'd like to help. I think that's the best method here (and on most forums), ask very direct questions instead of broad ones. The first question you posted is taboo and so asking it broadly gets the response you disliked.

IMHO
Training is everything. It helps you know what to do and helps to be more aware of what you can do.

Have you taken any self defense classes or shooting classes? Also a good idea is to think of scenarios at home and work and in the car where you might need to respond in several ways. Where a crook might break in, where you phones and guns are. Does your wife know what to do in these situations?

Don't think about how you'll feel about shooting in self defense. If you are worried about anything more than protecting loved ones and yourself it will become a disability should a situation ever arise.

Of course this is all just my opinion, but it's things I've learned and I hope it helps.

[Waingro]

Well if you can put my joking aside (though I am part of the idiot brigade here ) This is a much more direct question that will hopefully get more direct answers and I'd like to help. I think that's the best method here (and on most forums), ask very direct questions instead of broad ones. The first question you posted is taboo and so asking it broadly gets the response you disliked.

IMHO
Training is everything. It helps you know what to do and helps to be more aware of what you can do.

Have you taken any self defense classes or shooting classes? Also a good idea is to think of scenarios at home and work and in the car where you might need to respond in several ways. Where a crook might break in, where you phones and guns are. Does your wife know what to do in these situations?

Don't think about how you'll feel about shooting in self defense. If you are worried about anything more than protecting loved ones and yourself it will become a disability should a situation ever arise.

Of course this is all just my opinion, but it's things I've learned and I hope it helps.

I took a self defense class. I have a disabled wife (meaning running is out of the question). I have seen police shootings before and I notice that they only retain around 10% of their training when shooting in self defense (and they are wearing vests).

I also have a Utah CCW and I am trying to get an LA CCW (I hear it is almost impossible). But my first question still stands. Does your training kick in or is it all adrenaline and you just empty the mag? I would really like to know what to expect given if the situation ever arises.

Will my hands be steady enough to place the shots correctly let alone hold a pistol? Things of that sort - that is why I asked people that have actually gone though this experience. At the range I can put 25 rounds center mass no problem.

I take offense to some of the people who posted here due to the fact that I did ask a valid question and was met with sarcasm and some people were joking around about a very serious subject. I am here to learn about firearms, laws, and how to defend my loved ones (hell you guys are making me want to build an AR now). That is nothing to joke around about or be sarcastic. If you don't have anything to contribute then don't post.

[redneckshootist]

I took a self defense class. I have a disabled wife (meaning running is out of the question). I have seen police shootings before and I notice that they only retain around 10% of their training when shooting in self defense (and they are wearing vests).

I also have a Utah CCW and I am trying to get an LA CCW (I hear it is almost impossible). But my first question still stands. Does your training kick in or is it all adrenaline and you just empty the mag? I would really like to know what to expect given if the situation ever arises.

Will my hands be steady enough to place the shots correctly let alone hold a pistol? Things of that sort - that is why I asked people that have actually gone though this experience. At the range I can put 25 rounds center mass no problem.

I take offense to some of the people who posted here due to the fact that I did ask a valid question and was met with sarcasm and some people were joking around about a very serious subject. I am here to learn about firearms, laws, and how to defend my loved ones (hell you guys are making me want to build an AR now). That is nothing to joke around about or be sarcastic. If you don't have anything to contribute then don't post.

good job on taking the self defence class that is a start. In my opion (I too am one of the ones that posted some sarcasim) take up hunting, take up tactical pistol, tactial rifle, and tactical shotgun. That kind of competion is not only fun but you will learn a lot when it come to defencive/combat shooting. Also matial arts will help too, some are a joke so choose wisely. Pratice different sinerios too. I have been in more than one defencive encounter I dont talk much about them especily online but if you have enough training some stuff comes as a second nature.